Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings.

Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/25/21 05:57 AM

Place holder.
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/25/21 06:22 AM

Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind


Fantastic documentary on the Paranormal with a slightly different point of view. This documentary explores the collective consciousness ideology, with some anecdotal, coincidental proofs. Well documented, well researched. The documentary contains footage and interviews with numerous and varying field experts.

Free For Amazon Prime Subscribers



The Great Hack


Underappreciated documentary for a few reasons. One, the understanding of data as a commodity. Two, how the 2016 United Sates Election was truly lost. Three, How Brexit came to exist, and subsequently follow through.

This documentary explores and demonstrates how data is the new oil. And how this data can be used to manipulate the general populace.

Watch it on Netflix
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/25/21 06:30 AM

THERE'S ESTROGEN IN OUR FOOD AND IT IS MAKING MEN WEAKER AND SOFTER.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/25/21 06:31 AM

CHEMTRAILS ARE REAL, JUST LOOK IN THE SKY
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/25/21 06:32 AM

DEMOCRATS WANT TO PUSH THEIR DEPOPULATION AGENDA ON THE WORLD AND THEY TELL ME HOW I FEEL CAN ALTER MY DNA BASICALLY

REPUBLICANS THINK WHITE SUPREMECY, WHITE PRIVILEGE, AND POLICE BRUTALITY ARE MYTHS


WHY I DON'T IDENTIFY AS NEITHER
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/25/21 06:38 AM

TRUMP WON THAT ELECTION
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/25/21 06:43 AM

BERNIE SANDERS WON THE NOMINATION TWICE AND WAS NEVER ON THE PRESIDENTIAL BALLOT...THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING...AMERICA HAS FALLEN TO THE PITS TO HAVE OUR LAST THREE OPTIONS BE: TRUMP, BIDEN, AND HILLARY...THIS NATION IS FALLING APART AND IS READY TO COLLAPSE AND THE MORE OUTRAGEOUS BELIEFS WE ACCEPT AS A NATION...THE SOONER IT WILL FALL
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/25/21 06:50 AM

I LOVE LAMP
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/25/21 06:55 AM

WHY ARE WE YELLING!???

This is not how i envisioned this thread to be lol.
Posted by: Jarnoh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/26/21 02:52 AM

I like this thread already laugh
Posted by: Picograms95

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/26/21 07:56 AM

smile
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/26/21 07:59 AM

People should be called what they want to be called, but, I am not calling an individual "they, them" your voices in your head does not change that you are a singular person.


All names are made up
All words are made up
Gender and sex not the same thing and are social constructs, cool, so is marriage, being born with XX or Xy is not a social construct and the acceptance of all of this is leading to the legalization and acceptance of pedophilia in society, but, that will not be discussed, as people are tribal and want to be right, more than they want to do genuine good.
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/26/21 08:56 AM

Think the way genders and shit is going in the world is ridiculous but can u update us on the link between the gender stupidity and paedophillia lol
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/26/21 02:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Matty
Think the way genders and shit is going in the world is ridiculous but can u update us on the link between the gender stupidity and paedophillia lol



Links NSFW.
This is a deep rabbit hole Matty

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/milwaukee-brett-blomme-arrested-drag-queen-story-hour-sponsor

https://www.newsweek.com/sex-offender-busted-drag-queen-who-read-book-children-city-library-1365384
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/26/21 02:56 PM

What is really interesting is to have that whole XX and XY thoroughly tested
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/26/21 03:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Migrantworkers
What is really interesting is to have that whole XX and XY thoroughly tested


Can you expand on this thought Mig?
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 04:32 AM

question for whoever - why the rage at masks? whether they do or dont have an effect, i dont get the outrage at wearing a mask for 10 mins in a shop, im wondering what the issue is and intrigued to hear opinions on it
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 05:27 AM

The issue with the mask is compliance and it shows that people are willingly just listening to what they are being told, as opposed to thinking for themselves, also, the fact that small to medium businesses are subject to being attacked by their own local police/government officials, really digs into how set up this is, to force dependence upon us all.

Also, Bill Gates buys farm land and Joe Biden wants to put private owned farmland into the hands of the government. It's time to wake up and stop thinking everything is a coincidence and conspiracy. These things are pre planned and mapped out. CNN just got busted for collusion and propaganda among other news outlets. They are going to push the climate change to enter these ridiculous laws for our Health and Safety.

Large number of people who got the first jab are not getting the second, because of the AE's they experienced. It is closing in on 4,000 Deaths now. Laughing at people who tell you MSM is lying to you is NOT the way to go.

It was a conspiracy that lockdowns would last longer than two weeks
It was a conspiracy that they would create chips for us
It was a conspiracy they would create vaccine identifications (New York already piloted the program)
It was a conspiracy that the United States Election was rigged (Look at the Audit in Arizona, they are predicting 250K fakes votes for Biden)

Yet, you think the longer you comply, the sooner we will "Get back to normal" and "Just be done with it"...they poison the food, water, and air and you think they care about your health?


Tell me where Governments go after they overreach? Where in history do they take ten steps over and go back ten steps. Most may go one step back, things never go back to how they were, yet, no matter what history shows, some of you tell yourselves it will. Resistance is THE ONLY FUCKING OPTION.

There are sporting events with thousands of people. UFC just had close to 15,000 people in attendance and Joe Biden is saying get your shots or you can't BBQ with your neighbor and people are trusting that guy?

Fauci literally hid Aids research from people, has ties to one of the killing factories and is some how the authority that is being listened to? What twilight zone episode is this nonsense?

Vaccines are not safe, period. Bill Gates tells you he is going to use Vaccines, and the Healthcare system to reduce population out of HIS OWN MOUTH and some of you think people just randomly started hating this guy...come on


THERE WAS NO INCREASE IN DEATHS IN 2020. A REAL PANDEMIC WOULD HAVE SPIKED DEATHS. THAT NEVER HAPPENED...FLU NUMBERS MYSTERIOUSLY DOWN, BUT, COVID IS STILL SPREADING? WHERE IS YOUR LOGIC?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 05:31 AM

And MSM wants us all to hate all cops. That's a whole other topic.

Y'all keep complying and hoping things get back, meanwhile all the opened states and low vaccinated areas show a decrease in positive tests (which, the numbers have always been bullshit) and areas with mask mandates and high vaccinated populations are getting spikes...not to mention America is bussing in immigrants without testing them at all. An open border without testing does not strike me as Covid being a dire concern. Use your fuckin heads. Keep trusting these funded scientists who take big pharma money, America gov money, Chinese Gov money to sell you propaganda, as for some reason people believe scientist cannot be bought or blackmailed... I'm out.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 05:35 AM

Who is funding these companies to give free giveaways? Why did the American Gov give themselves a billion dollar budget to market these shots? How come they are not feeding and helping our Vets, Elderly, and Homeless with that money? How come they are not pushing education on our immune system? Stop falling for their bullshit. It's fucking frustrating how many of you bury your fuckin head in the sand, because, of your political ideology or feeling like it does not concern you.

Public health should not be a political issue and doing your part is fuckin exercising and making sure your immune system is strong. Don't want to hear about doing it for others if you do not regularly make sure the vitamins and minerals your immune system needs, you are giving it year round, funny convenience to try to guilt people into not wanting to be human lab rat. Rant done.
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 05:45 AM

ok another thing id love to hear your theory on is cancer has a known cure, but its much more profitable to keep it hidden, so it remains that way, thoughts on this?

would be interesting to hear others thoughts on the questions too, not just trite
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 06:01 AM

Cancer has been cured several times. Good luck proving it tho.


There is too much money in sickness. Those who cause the sickness, sell you medications and give indoctrination to healthcare professionals and workers. There is brain washing on a whole other level, outside of the brainwashing to the masses. They put the people the public trust in their pocket. Finding a legit Dr that is not funded by a major pharma company is rare.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 06:03 AM

How has the Alphabet boys infiltrated the influence on every country in the world? If one of you can answer this outside of Hstlr, I'll be surprised.

By the way, lots of those crazy illuminati videos don't seem so crazy anymore if you pay attention. Just watch what the Liberals are pushing.
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 06:06 AM

next question, for those who have had a vaccine, whats your thoughts on what the future will hold, are they gonna kill the vaccinated off or is it used for a different reason?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 06:24 AM

Democrats pick new judge overseeing the audit in Arizona, hearing set for Tuesday, on pace for over 250 K fake votes for Biden. Democrats cheated Bernie out twice, cheated to get Biden in...you all need to ask yourself why they are so desperate to get this man into office and keep him there. He's only caused havoc since being in office these past four months.

This level of corruption should cause a revolt, but, the left stuck with the left after Bernie got cheated twice and just believe what MSM tells them
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 06:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Matty
question for whoever - why the rage at masks? whether they do or dont have an effect, i dont get the outrage at wearing a mask for 10 mins in a shop, im wondering what the issue is and intrigued to hear opinions on it


https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmed.2020.564280/full

Quote:
Conclusion: Surgical mask wearing among individuals in non-healthcare settings is not significantly associated with reduction in ARI incidence in this meta-review.


I have a real problem with how science has been "Memed" this past year or two.
Every lockdown, every mandate has done more harm than good. The masks also prevented the general populace from creating herd immunity against a coronavirus like has been done the past few decades.

The mask provides people with a false sense of safety, and masks historically have been used as "muzzles" to silence citizens.

Bacterial Pneumonia real cause of mortality of 1918 Spanish Flu
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-rel...luenza-pandemic

Microbial Contamination on Used Surgical Masks
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4202234/

Wearing Face Masks Strongly Confuses Counterparts in Reading Emotions
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.566886/full

Thats all fantastic especially for our developing and younger generations who are being taught to fear and not allowed to psychologically develop appropriately.
Can you provide me with scientific evidence that face masks are beneficial to your average civilian?
Welcome to the biggest Psychological Operation ever played on mankind.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 07:37 AM

If we're just throwing shit out...4CHAN MAKES YOU GROW TITTIES! TRUMP IS TRANS! THE REAL ENEMY IS SPAIN! KANYE IS ACTUALLY WHITE!

Evidence for masks working:
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906...e-masks-prevent
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/new-s...navirus-spread/
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-08-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-act-now
https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2021/more-evidence-for-masks-and-social-distancing/


These are legit research institutions, not news. That's the sticking point I have with a lot of theories around the virus and vaccines... it's just so big. I know trite hates the term conspiracy theory, but the theory that vaccines are not effective is that...a theory that there is a conspiracy that is large enough to mass fake scientific data, knowing that this data will be checked and verified again by the entire world for the rest of human history. For the virus or the vaccines to be fake the conspiracy would have to be big enough that it defies logic. So many countries and orgs involved, I can't see them agreeing with anything without overwhelming evidence, which the covid strategy followed by first world countries appears to have.



If you believe masks do not help...what is the harm in using them? If you are wrong, you save lives. If you are right you are inconvenienced for 10 minutes at the grocery store.
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 08:08 AM

Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 08:15 AM

Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 08:27 AM

I can read it through quote. Gist was I quoted some opp ed articles and there are studies on influenza which show no benefit from face masks. However, digging through the articles to the sources does show reason to believe face masks help. if you believe there is a global pandemic, is it not better to be safe than sorry?

Here are a couple of deeper sources, could dig through more later if it comes down to it.
https://www.pnas.org/content/117/26/14857
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21735402/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0048969720350890

Ecological studies support countries with near universal mask useage such as Japan are less affected by those that are not.

I mean...if there is a chance a mask will save lives, even a chance, why not?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 10:01 AM

There are other variables outside of masks that help Japan. Their diet being the main one.


The fact that those telling us to wear masks, don't weak masks should be enough to show you the sham.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 10:02 AM

Who else lives in SoCal?

Who remembers when it rained nine weeks straight and only rained Fri-Monday every single week?

Any word on why there is a media blackout on the boat that capsized in Louisiana and why they are fining the family memebers for hiring their own recue teams? Sounds fishy. Geoengineered storm.
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 12:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Trite

Any word on why there is a media blackout on the boat that capsized in Louisiana and why they are fining the family memebers for hiring their own recue teams? Sounds fishy. Geoengineered storm.


Going to need some links on that one.
I cant find anything regarding the family members being fined.

Also, the media blackout might have something to do with some dude name Chauvin or something taking greater precedence.
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 01:36 PM

So you guys got Chubby banned for spreading conspiracy theories, right?

Let's get that man unbanned.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 03:05 PM

Originally Posted By: SbrbnHstlr
Originally Posted By: Trite

Any word on why there is a media blackout on the boat that capsized in Louisiana and why they are fining the family memebers for hiring their own recue teams? Sounds fishy. Geoengineered storm.


Going to need some links on that one.
I cant find anything regarding the family members being fined.

Also, the media blackout might have something to do with some dude name Chauvin or something taking greater precedence.



Cannot find anything either. Saw people in Louisiana mention it was a blurb on the nightly news once and that was it and many of them found it peculiar.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/27/21 03:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Olir
So you guys got Chubby banned for spreading conspiracy theories, right?

Let's get that man unbanned.


Chubby can post all he wants and Chubby was talking about the game being hacked against him specifically...and conspiracy theories is a really intellectually lazy term.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/28/21 05:54 AM

The most important thing to remember about power. When it is given or taken it is never given back. Humans in power positions rarely if ever admit to being wrong. They will ride the ship through the storm unless they can blame someone else for the misguided directions they have given. Power corrupts the mind into making you believe you are right simply because of percieved position power. Stop giving "elected" officials the ability to dictate your life so freely. We are all free men. All souls born to this world has free will. Use it.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/28/21 08:37 AM

This thread -
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/28/21 11:35 PM

lol perfect blim. love dead milkmen but had never heard that one before.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/29/21 12:40 AM

Has anybody here worked for a major pharm like me?

Blim's YouTube post didn't make me laugh, gave me a headache...There hasn't been any retort


100% mortality rate for animals during MRNA testing. Keep thinking everything is a joke, until it's too late.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/29/21 05:43 AM

The burden of proof is on the claimant. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Claims indicating things like the entire science of virology is wrong and vaccines did not cure polio are reality shattering extraordinary and highly dangerious if incorrect, and therefore would require some incredibly sound evidence to believe in reasonable practice.

I haven't seen any evidence presented for any claims made other than Hustlers posting about some influenza studies on masks, which were refuted on newer studies I posted related to covid.

Point is, anyone can make claims about anything on the internet. Without evidence, you should not believe them. Bring the evidence to be taken seriously.

Do I believe you worked for a pharm and saw some shady shit? Sure, Trite is a trustworthy guy. Do I take that for evidence that all scientific consensus on vaccines and medications is incorrect or in question, do I take that word over hundreds of thousands of professionals who have dedicated their lives to studying diseases? Do I believe this so soundly that I would risk lives, risk the pandemic never ending and throw away globally accepted scientific consensus on Covid mitigation? No
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/29/21 05:52 AM

If masks and social distancing worked to slow the spread of flu to historically low numbers......then why didnt they work on COVID?
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/29/21 05:54 AM

Covid is far more contagious than the flu. We also have a flu vaccine.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/29/21 06:04 AM

In the last 10 years, according to the CDC, the most effective flu vaccine was at a 60% efficacy rate. That was during the 2010-2011 flu season. So, with that being said.....a more contagious style coronavirus vaccine with only 10 months of development now has a 95% efficacy rate? So knowing what we know about virology and the flu virus in particular, we have had a vaccine for 70 years mind you, that the best we can do for it is a 60% efficiency rate? You are being lied to about the covid vaccine. I dont know why. The research timeline and efficacy data of prior known vaccines does support its claimed effectiveness. The most succesful human developed vaccine to date is the MMR vaccine and it only has a 98% efficiancy rate. These are real numbers. Please fact check them if youd like.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/29/21 06:19 AM

There are more strains of the flu than covid. However, if the vaccine and mask deniers continue on their way this could change and a variant of covid could come out which gets around the existing vaccines. The science is still ongoing, there is some speculation that variants are the reason J & J only tested at 65% efficiency, but at least it was still successful in preventing serious illnes.

This is not speculation or some scare tactic, it's basic biology. This is how viruses work, they mutate with community transmission.

There was also a LOT more money thrown at a covid vaccine than was ever spent on the flu. Multiple labs working in multiple countries and coordinating to rush out a vaccine. Benefits for other vaccines are likely to come out of the research done for covid, potentially including a better flu vaccine, but will take time.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/29/21 07:53 AM

With all that being said.....flu is mostly airborne....COVID is mostly aiborne. Fomite transmission has shown to be minimal. If masks and social distancing worked for flu then why didnt it work for COVID? Virus micron size not withstanding here, most "face coverings" are woefully inadequate. This was compliance. Viruses have existed long before us and will thrive long after us. A diabetic geriatric dying WITH covid isnt the same thing as dying BECAUSE of covid.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/29/21 08:20 AM

Because Covid is more contagious than the flu by far. It also has a much longer asymptomatic period and more asymptomatic carriers. Some evidence suggests Covid lingers in the air longer than the flu as well, studies ongoing.
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/29/21 04:51 PM

BBZ 12

Others 0
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/30/21 12:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Migrantworkers
BBZ 12

Others 0



LMMFAO. Not how I see the score AT ALL LMMFAO. Hilarious post.

How the Arizona Audit going Mig?

Anyone else following the Audit?

Also, how do you guys feel about the shedding that is going on with people who got the shots making others sick...you know...what you claim you care about

You all take vitamins year around to avoid getting sick, right? LMMFAO

Can any of you explain why we have an open border and they are not testing if it is so contagious and so dangerous?

Flu shot is trash Blim, shame on you for trying to mention that AT ALL lol.

Flu Shot in Italy is where they got hit so hard in 2020.

If the masks don't work, why not just wear them anyway? LMMFAO


I love this thread.

I also like how even Teal Blim is, even when he disagrees with someone, very mature responses on all ends (except for my dig on Migrant, but, I like Migrant)


I really hope the claims that all of you will be dead within three years after getting the shots is not true.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/30/21 05:33 AM

Trite, we will all be dead in 5 years from climate change anyway hahahaha
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/30/21 05:40 AM

Trite throwing a LOT of topics out against the wall at once god damn. Chill mon, chill, one ting at a time. You wanna talk about one thing in depth? AZ audit? We can go into that. Flu shot? Gimme one thing and why you believe it. I'm concerned about your sources brotha.

People be gettin their news from 4chan and shit. Last time I was on 4chan was a million years ago when trolls were telling kids to mix bleach and ammonia to get high (don't do this). That's my basic question. You making a lot of rough stances, but what is the detail and what is the source? Convince me brotha, why should we believe it more than we believe the "what the queers are doing to the soil" guy?
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 04/30/21 08:07 PM

shedding? like shedding skin like a snake? lol
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/01/21 04:30 AM

I give up with this forum again. Lol. The illegal punctuation gremlins got me again on a long post.

Pfizer Study on Protein Spike Shedding
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/01/21 08:04 AM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
shedding? like shedding skin like a snake? lol



HStlr beat me to it


Vaccinated people causing sickness in unvaccinated people, since, you got the shot for other people and not yourself. Pfzier knew about it, and the media is not discussing it at all. MSM corrupt...
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/01/21 08:16 AM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Trite throwing a LOT of topics out against the wall at once god damn. Chill mon, chill, one ting at a time. You wanna talk about one thing in depth? AZ audit? We can go into that. Flu shot? Gimme one thing and why you believe it. I'm concerned about your sources brotha.

People be gettin their news from 4chan and shit. Last time I was on 4chan was a million years ago when trolls were telling kids to mix bleach and ammonia to get high (don't do this). That's my basic question. You making a lot of rough stances, but what is the detail and what is the source? Convince me brotha, why should we believe it more than we believe the "what the queers are doing to the soil" guy?


I do not believe in convincing people of anything tbh. I experienced the shedding and a former co-worked experienced the shedding and her son did. I felt it before there were rumbling of hundreds of people coming online saying the same thing and their accounts starting to get deleted. I did not jump into just believing anything, because someone says it, that's stupid.

Why did Facebook delete an active group talking about the AE's of 70K people? You think they were going against a policy by mentioning their family members were dying or getting sick and they should not believe the news telling them it is ok?

The AZ audit is being live streamed through 9 cameras 24/7. Democrats fighting against it, is not troubling to you? The Arizona State Fair planning to have a random fair near the audit site is not troubling to you? This has triggered several counties in several states to discuss auditing the votes. I worked at a big pharma and I don't trust them.


Let me just ask you guys this:

You trust Government to tell you the truth?
You trust the media to tell you the truth?
You trust that the Pharmaceutical industry wants what is best for you?


My sources are the previously disclosed acts of the United States Government. My sources are the collusion of the Mainstream media with said Government. My sources are working for a major pharma, reporting AD's and hearing the horror stories of the United States Health Industry for almost seven years, between working at a big pharma and a major health insurance.

Nothing I hear from others is surprising or new. What is surprising, is there are years of recorded human history and people think that we have some how miraculously turned the corner and have evolved past what humans have always done in society and that if you disagree with the narratives that you are given, that makes you stupid or crazy. It's recorded, human experiments, testing on populations, experimentation to areas of the population without their knowledge. All these big pharma companies have been sued time and time again for murdering and hurting people intentionally with their vaccines. That's not a conspiracy. Pfizer got caught bribing lol. What are your sources? These people can be paid off to report what they are told.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/01/21 08:17 AM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
There are more strains of the flu than covid. However, if the vaccine and mask deniers continue on their way this could change and a variant of covid could come out which gets around the existing vaccines. The science is still ongoing, there is some speculation that variants are the reason J & J only tested at 65% efficiency, but at least it was still successful in preventing serious illnes.

This is not speculation or some scare tactic, it's basic biology. This is how viruses work, they mutate with community transmission.

There was also a LOT more money thrown at a covid vaccine than was ever spent on the flu. Multiple labs working in multiple countries and coordinating to rush out a vaccine. Benefits for other vaccines are likely to come out of the research done for covid, potentially including a better flu vaccine, but will take time.


THE J & J shot is killing people. Look at the VAERS reporting on it
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/01/21 08:19 AM

It was a conspiracy that lockdowns would last longer than two weeks
It was a conspiracy that they would create chips for us
It was a conspiracy they would create vaccine identifications (New York already piloted the program)


None of these were addressed, because, it just shows that things are just easily dismissed...again...and again...and again. That's called programming you know.

I could make this list longer...


Flatten the curve...
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/01/21 09:43 PM

many countries were able to control covid a hell of a lot better than usa, where people think being a super spreader asshole is a matter of their sacred freedoms.
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/02/21 05:48 AM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
many countries were able to control covid a hell of a lot better than usa, where people think being a super spreader asshole is a matter of their sacred freedoms.


Super Bowl Super Spreaders
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/02/21 06:08 AM

Yeh the whole super spreader thing is weird - we had all sorts of anti-lockdown and BLM protests and riots a while back and they never really amounted to any sharp rise in cases, but then on the flip side, you cant trust the media to post factual stuff, so imo, you never know what to believe, which is why I dont really bother reading shit anymore and have unfollowed, blocked or muted any mention of it as so much is just false or provocative, dont need that shit in my life, this thread is my fix for this stuff and about as far as ill go to actually read up on any of this stuff, whether truth, lies or pure conspiracy
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/02/21 07:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Matty
Yeh the whole super spreader thing is weird - we had all sorts of anti-lockdown and BLM protests and riots a while back and they never really amounted to any sharp rise in cases, but then on the flip side, you cant trust the media to post factual stuff, so imo, you never know what to believe, which is why I dont really bother reading shit anymore and have unfollowed, blocked or muted any mention of it as so much is just false or provocative, dont need that shit in my life, this thread is my fix for this stuff and about as far as ill go to actually read up on any of this stuff, whether truth, lies or pure conspiracy


The United States saw the same thing. BLM burning down cities without issue, actually encouraged by one side of the political isle. At the same time they condemned gatherings for the most popular president in United States history. The hypocrisy is everywhere.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/02/21 09:43 AM

There are no such thing as super spreaders. It is propaganda to make you feel guilty for enjoying your life. There's your conspiracy. Sunshine and hugs are bad. It's complete bullshit and holds no actual ground in reality. UFC just had an event with 15,000 people, enough is enough.

The whole be scared, be very scared thing is weak. The issue with Covid in other countries are diet and really big pharma's influence.

Mask mandated areas and high areas of vaccinated people are doing worse, there's nothing else that needs to be said. Everything else is out of fear.

The fact that some of you are spewing MSM propaganda and telling others to be afraid is very weird.

I'll ask this again.

For those of you who got the shot for others (lol) you all take vitamins year round, eat clean, and exercise regularly to limit your chances of being sick and infecting other people, right? (LMMFAO)


Please. Everywhere that is thriving has no mask mandates and low numbers of people getting the jab. Dr. Fauci couldn't even explain it, as, it goes against the propaganda he's pushing.

Be afraid...be very afraid...keep being afraid blah bullshit. And Drink, yes, our fucking freedom matters, period. Would you like more restriction and more intrusive government practices? Come on.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/02/21 09:47 AM

Originally Posted By: SbrbnHstlr
Originally Posted By: Matty
Yeh the whole super spreader thing is weird - we had all sorts of anti-lockdown and BLM protests and riots a while back and they never really amounted to any sharp rise in cases, but then on the flip side, you cant trust the media to post factual stuff, so imo, you never know what to believe, which is why I dont really bother reading shit anymore and have unfollowed, blocked or muted any mention of it as so much is just false or provocative, dont need that shit in my life, this thread is my fix for this stuff and about as far as ill go to actually read up on any of this stuff, whether truth, lies or pure conspiracy


The United States saw the same thing. BLM burning down cities without issue, actually encouraged by one side of the political isle. At the same time they condemned gatherings for the most popular president in United States history. The hypocrisy is everywhere.


Yea, BLM and ANTIFA are extensions of the Democrats, and they encouraged people to be in the street for those matters, but, you cannot see your family unless you get the shot. Man, if you cannot see the obvious bullshit there, I can't tell you anything. The corruption and collusion is blatant, but, they pump so much fear into you, that you cannot see the hypocrisy in what they do, as, none of it really makes sense under scrutiny...yet...here we are with people defending big brother like they care about them. It's unreal imo.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/03/21 05:54 AM

Topic moved on to protests and things looks like. 2 main discussions going on, covid and Trump stuff appears. To a degree they are related but the arguments are different. Let me start with the protest stuff.

So Subrbn, cities have been burnt down? What cities? If I try and travel to a city like Portland or Seatle I'm going to find smoking wreckage where the city used to be? "BLM burnt down the cities" has been a hilariously false talking point fox news been pushing since Floyd went down. Talk with anyone who lives in those areas and they will tell you the protests involved a couple of blocks and there was no mass danger in the city, particularly during the day.

99% of BLM protests have been peaceful. Any mass group gatherings will have some bad behavior if you film long enough. Play those on loop and you can drum up opposition to the protesters and their cause. Trite likes to play ask yourself. Ask yourself why you care some protests got out of hand in Portland or Seattle. Are you concerned protests will get out of hand where you live? The ones in Knoville were peaceful af, lot of good dialogue with the police about their concerns.

Country has a long history of protests to push for social change. You can argue a lot of good came out of them, women and other minorities got the right to vote, segregation ended, prohibition, ended, etc. Virtually every one of those movements was painted as a riot by it's opposition. BLM seems to me a noble enough goal, reform policing to end bullshit like what happened to Floyd. When Martin and Malcom were alive at time there were race riots that make the worst of blm look like nothing, but depending upon your view there was a movement toward a noble cause. These were pushed by Nixon as the end of civilization and Nixon ran as the "law and order" president who would rain these riots in. Trump worked toward the exact same strategy in 2020.

January 6th followed a bit of a different pattern. What was the purpose of this protest? To interrupt the certification of election results? To "Hang Mike Pence" as they were chanting? To install Trump as dictator? To those who know more about dictatorships than me this was a textbook coup. Step 1 - deal with the military. Trump replaced top Pentagon officials prior to the day of and coordinated a slowdown of response. Step 2 - orchestrate an attack. If possible kill people in the line of succession for ruler during this attack. Step 3 - become leader longer than normal due to the emergency "for the good of the country". Step 4 - never let this temporary rule expire.



Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/03/21 06:35 AM

Alright, can take a step back. If the topics jump around a lot it's a lot to respond to.

LMMFAO. Not how I see the score AT ALL LMMFAO. Hilarious post.

How the Arizona Audit going Mig? AZ audit is it's own thing, strikes me as batshit insane. Has already been a hand recount and 2 bipartisan audits. Now they have hired Cyber Ninjas whos founder shared Trump's election bullshit on social media and they broke election law by getting into the ballots without observers from both sides present. That has already happened, highly likely they already eliminated or altered ballots. Why wouldn't they? The rules about observers are there for a reason, now we have 2.1 million ballots which have left the chain of evidence to go into Cyberninja trumper guys custody for who knows what.


Also, how do you guys feel about the shedding that is going on with people who got the shots making others sick...you know...what you claim you care about I haven't heard of the shedding thing. Looked over the research but didnt see any indicators that would indicate a problem. Read up a bit, seems the concensus is that there is no risk without a live virus, that shedding is not a factor. I'm falling back on the medical industry on this one, I believe that those who dedicated their careers to studying this sort of data have a better idea than I do that this is not an issue.

You all take vitamins year around to avoid getting sick, right? LMMFAO Yeah I take a multivitamin every day, have for years.

Can any of you explain why we have an open border and they are not testing if it is so contagious and so dangerous? It's a balancing act between the economy and safety. We did just recently close the border to india due to the prevalence there.

Flu shot is trash Blim, shame on you for trying to mention that AT ALL lol.

Flu Shot in Italy is where they got hit so hard in 2020. Is there data to back this up? or is it Trites word agains the world?

If the masks don't work, why not just wear them anyway? LMMFAO Provided data already on masks.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/03/21 11:47 AM

Contrarion here Blim.....no coup has ever occured with the members so....unarmerd. Had they been armed with the intent of overthrowing the goverment they COULD have. It was in fact a protest, like many that have occured in the past. 2-5% of the total protest crowd even entered the Capitol building. Coup is also a military takeover of goverment....see Myanmar. I dont want Trump as a dictator but I also dont want to see such a blatant and systematic control of one politcal partys narrative. If there were ZERO politcal partys I'd still vote for the individual with the most conservative values. America is great, you can succeed no matter your skin color, other countries are our "friends" but need a healthy dose of fear that we wont kick their ass. I served my community as a firefighter and served my country in the armed forces. The constitution as it is written means something to everyone in a diffrent way. Unless you've seen it first hand you thank what ever god you pray to that we have those protections. Kulaks.....look them up.
Posted by: MMA Phreak

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/03/21 11:57 AM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Topic moved on to protests and things looks like. 2 main discussions going on, covid and Trump stuff appears. To a degree they are related but the arguments are different. Let me start with the protest stuff.

So Subrbn, cities have been burnt down? What cities? If I try and travel to a city like Portland or Seatle I'm going to find smoking wreckage where the city used to be? "BLM burnt down the cities" has been a hilariously false talking point fox news been pushing since Floyd went down. Talk with anyone who lives in those areas and they will tell you the protests involved a couple of blocks and there was no mass danger in the city, particularly during the day.

99% of BLM protests have been peaceful. Any mass group gatherings will have some bad behavior if you film long enough. Play those on loop and you can drum up opposition to the protesters and their cause. Trite likes to play ask yourself. Ask yourself why you care some protests got out of hand in Portland or Seattle. Are you concerned protests will get out of hand where you live? The ones in Knoville were peaceful af, lot of good dialogue with the police about their concerns.

Country has a long history of protests to push for social change. You can argue a lot of good came out of them, women and other minorities got the right to vote, segregation ended, prohibition, ended, etc. Virtually every one of those movements was painted as a riot by it's opposition. BLM seems to me a noble enough goal, reform policing to end bullshit like what happened to Floyd. When Martin and Malcom were alive at time there were race riots that make the worst of blm look like nothing, but depending upon your view there was a movement toward a noble cause. These were pushed by Nixon as the end of civilization and Nixon ran as the "law and order" president who would rain these riots in. Trump worked toward the exact same strategy in 2020.

January 6th followed a bit of a different pattern. What was the purpose of this protest? To interrupt the certification of election results? To "Hang Mike Pence" as they were chanting? To install Trump as dictator? To those who know more about dictatorships than me this was a textbook coup. Step 1 - deal with the military. Trump replaced top Pentagon officials prior to the day of and coordinated a slowdown of response. Step 2 - orchestrate an attack. If possible kill people in the line of succession for ruler during this attack. Step 3 - become leader longer than normal due to the emergency "for the good of the country". Step 4 - never let this temporary rule expire.





While the "burnt down cities" is a bit of hyperbole (but no more than the "mostly peaceful protest" BS was), here are some pics:

seattle:



portland:



minneapolis:




while difficult to not inject your own bias into these types of issues, we should at least try. your "coup" narrative comes straight from a CNN broadcast and is total BS. were these people there that wanted to disrupt the certification? i'm sure there were. don't the BLM riot apologists always tell us "sure, there are a few bad apples that cause problems in a protest"? the overwhelming majority of the protesters at the capital wanted what the overwhelming majority of protesters want at BLM protests. they wanted to be heard. they believed the election was not on the up and up. you can argue whether or not that happened, but if someone truly believed there was election malfeasance, then they had every right to protest. just like the people who believe that police killing unarmed black men is at epidemic proportions.
Posted by: MMA Phreak

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/03/21 12:04 PM

SH,

finally finished watching CE5. couldn't help but feel like ralphie in christmas story when he's sitting on the toilet furiously decoding little orphan annie's secret code only to find it was a "crummy commerical". i felt at the end that i had just watched a 2 hour commercial for a $10 smart phone app.

with that, there was for sure some interesting stuff in it. i did some research on the random number collective consciousness experiments and it seems the scientific community believes the data falls far short of "proof" of any type of psychokinesis taking place.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/03/21 12:09 PM

Still see some buildings standing in those. "City burnt down" would mean a whole lot more devestation than a pics of 2 fires encompassing hundreds of protests that took place over months. Not that you couldn't provide more, 20 pics of fires from that many protests in that many places is nothing really. Hell, 20 pics of fires from celebrations after football games could make a pretty convincing story that being there at game end is some dangerious shit. Media picking the images that are going to get eyeballs paints a picture.

Sure, not everyone at the trump gathering was involved in some coup attempt, but the ones that broke into the capital were involved in illegal activity. Just like the BLM protesters that jumped the white house fence. But being let into the capital, the national guard not coming in after the invasion that shit is fishy as hell. Anyone who watched the news in the week leading up knew a capital attack could happen.

But this whole argument going to get nebulous anyway from this point forward. Like you can argue about election interference and you can argue about covid based upon facts, evidence, witnesses, etc. but the way the evacuation and trump thing went down you get into arguing intent. Probably going to be agree to disagree moments here.

The 1/6 group did construct a gallows outside. They were VERY close to getting in before the evacuation was complete. Im my opinion if they were just 10 minutes quicker we would have seen congressional deaths. You can disagree, that is entirely speculation. Hell, if Trump was on the white house lawn when BLM jumped the fence you could have seen real violence there too.

But yeah I"m not a fan of condemning protests based on the actions of a few. If some gun owners commit crimes, not all gun owners are criminals. This protects a constitutional right. If some protesters commit crimes not all protesters are criminals. This protects a constitutional right. I have made this argument about BLM before and it can apply in ways to 1/6.


Anyway, that whole argument is becoming less relevant and fact based than the rest. Speculating about history at this point, will be interesting to see what happens with both groups in the next couple years.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/03/21 02:13 PM

Political talks will become the new "religion" talks. The problem is that 2 political parties cant coexist peacefully with such a divide in between them. Moderates not withstanding. As a conservative....i dont give a shit about weed, legalize it. I dont give a shit about "gay marriage", legalize it. I dont agree with goverment interviention into my finaces, ie INCOME TAX. The penalty you pay for having a job? Seriously? I do have an issue with news outlets no longer reporting good AND bad stories of both political parties. Hell there certainly some Democrats i'd vote for in a heartbeat.....but then...i would be shooting myself in the foot by giving MORE power to a party that seems to have a straglehold on media, tech, academia, and now choke holds on 2 branches of goverment, house and senate seperate but equal and the executive branch. The Supreme Court cant do anything unless a lawsuit is filed. So that function is null and void if lower courts strike things down.
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/03/21 02:39 PM

Bill and Melinda Gates to divorce...can't wait to head the theories here....
Posted by: Jarnoh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/03/21 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
Bill and Melinda Gates to divorce...can't wait to head the theories here....


[x] Jarnoh: German police did some arrests in a 400.000 member pedophile network the same day Bill Gates gets a divorce. Wasn't he buddies with Epstein?
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/04/21 05:53 AM

People been wanting more paranormal talk around here. Alien stuff is some of my favorite of the unexplained. Anyone around ever seen a UFO? Have a few friends who have stories about spotting them. Nothing about being abducted or anything like that though.

Lot of documented UFO sightings in the airforce, seems like every few years I hear about more of that stuff getting declassified. UFOs seem to be a real thing, but don't know if we'll get solid evidence on exactly what they are in our lifetimes.


Given how many earthlike planets there are out there and how we seem to find more evidence of potential life even on harsh planets like Mars there is probably a lot of life on other planets. Maybe not super intelligent life, but life.

Have you heard of the great filter theory? Some scientists say there are so many of these planets and there is so much potential for life that there are bound to be other intelligent species out there. But why haven't they made contact? The great filter theory is that there is something that these species typically reach that holds them back from doing so. Some technologic hurdle or random event that often causes mass extinction before that. This could be a lot of things - the potential for nuclear weapons to cause mass extinction, asteroid strikes, industrial pollutants, something we have not even encoutered yet, or simply the difficulty of achieving faster than light travel. Space is big.

Another theory is that the universe is still relatively young. That we are one of the first spacefaring races to appear, potentially even the first. Who knows, interesting stuff to think about.

Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/04/21 05:59 AM

Another theory I like about space is about dark matter. Dark matter is basically stuff in the universe that has gravity and blocks out the stars. We don't know what it is. A theory that is possible but that I don't hear much is that the universe is actually star wars level crowded with spacefaring races that leave us alone the way we leave alone some uncontacted amazon tribes. And dark matter is us seeing spaceships, space stations, and planets that are obscured by cloaking devices. Maybe one day we will get a probe out to some dark matter to see what happens, but not sure that will happen in our lifetimes.
Posted by: Jarnoh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/04/21 06:45 AM

A UFO doesn't have to mean aliens, it's just someting unidentified. Whether someone will connect it to aliens depends more on what they already believe before seeing the phenomenon then on what they see.

Somewhere last winter I was cycling to work in the early morning and saw a light silently moving through the sky. Definately not a plane, not a drone and not a regular shooting star. That evening I joked to my wife that I'd seen a UFO.

Later that week by coincidence I saw an article about some unusual meteor or comet (or whatever the correct term for that specific one was), so it was no longer unidentified. If I was into alien stuff I might've explained the phenomenon as an alien spacecraft up till then.

Point is: a UFO is, by definition, something unidentified and connecting it to alien life shouldn't be done quickly as you don't even have much information about a phenomenon (or else you would've known what it is). It makes more sense to me to just admit that you've seen something of which you don't know what it is and leave it at that. Of all the possible explanations of lights in the sky, alien spacecrafts are the more unlikely ones.

Maybe that's a bit of a boring opinion for this thread.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/04/21 06:49 AM

That's very fair, I almost typed something to that effect, that it could be spycraft, a trick of the light, tourists from the future, who knows. It is a common experience that people seem to have a lot of theories about without a clear consensus on the cause.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/04/21 11:17 AM

Aliens are us. We are aliens. Maybe they come from the sea? Smaller bodies from the compression at depths, no pigmentation from lack of Vitamin D exposure from the sun, large eyes to see in darker locations, no obvious need for auditory communications due to the lack of sound traveling in water, large heads to communicate in an almost ESP way with vibrations on a wave length unpercievable to the the human ear????? Who knows.
Posted by: Ippo4ever

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/04/21 12:03 PM

On a planet where we cannot even stand united as a singular race of people, news of a discovery of extraterrestrials would cause complete and utter chaos.
Posted by: Jarnoh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/04/21 12:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Ippo4ever
On a planet where we cannot even stand united as a singular race of people, news of a discovery of extraterrestrials would cause complete and utter chaos.


Nothing unites as much as a common enemy. The introduction of the green man will probably mean the end of sovereign countries and a global government will be formed because because 'we' would have to adress the issue 'together'. Maybe a bit similar to the position of the World Health Organisation in the Covid pandemic.
Posted by: Ippo4ever

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/04/21 12:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Jarnoh
Nothing unites as much as a common enemy. The introduction of the green man will probably mean the end of sovereign countries and a global government will be formed because because 'we' would have to adress the issue 'together'. Maybe a bit similar to the position of the World Health Organisation in the Covid pandemic.


As much as I would like to believe that would happen, I fear it might turn into an arms race into different nations trying to acquire new technology from said extraterrestrials.
Posted by: Jarnoh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/04/21 12:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Ippo4ever

As much as I would like to believe that would happen, I fear it might turn into an arms race into different nations trying to acquire new technology from said extraterrestrials.


Ha! I'm not sure I'd like any of the options.
Posted by: ulithebison

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/04/21 01:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Jarnoh

[x] Jarnoh: German police did some arrests in a 400.000 member pedophile network


Did they?
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/04/21 01:24 PM

Originally Posted By: ulithebison
Originally Posted By: Jarnoh

[x] Jarnoh: German police did some arrests in a 400.000 member pedophile network


Did they?


https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/03/europe/germany-child-sex-abuse-imagery-ring-intl/index.html

3 People were arrested. Great job boys!
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/05/21 03:42 AM

Any of you follow Nick Catone on IG?
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/05/21 03:51 AM

As in the ex ufc fighter?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/05/21 05:12 AM

Yea Matty.


Hey, you guys keeping up with the tension with America and Russia?
Why Bill Gates funding GMO Mosquitoes?
You guys been keeping up with China's missile launch?
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/05/21 06:36 AM

New t-shirt idea trite:

Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/05/21 07:13 AM

That's hilarious and looks like someone has already done it lol
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/05/21 07:54 AM

Biden administration is "looking for new ways to motivate and convince" people to get the vaccine. Its a personal choice, the goverment should hold no stake in personal choice. I have had litrearly hundreds of vaccines in my 20 years of military service and nothing has been more suss than this one.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/05/21 08:38 AM

Back on the vaccine eh? So what is sus about it? What's the worst case for this sus-ness?

Do you believe there is a coronavirus? That is it's own discussion, and would take a much larger shift in suppressing scientific data than issues with vaccines alone.


Do you believe that disingenuous science took place in the vaccine development? For one company or all? What would that look like? What would motivate them to do that? Money? Threats? Money leaves a paper trail and threats aren't easy to pull off with everyone having a phone that can record things on them at all times. Seems like a recipe for prison for them later on if they did, the great thing about science is eventually data will be checked and issues will be identified.

The scope of the money or threats would have to be large for the research alone. You're talking hundreds of people. Then there were follow-up studies to covid on a variety of data points. If there was sus data or a non-existant vaccine that would have come out pretty quckly, prove that and you're in nobel prize territory. Now you're up to thousands of professional scientists compromised. Hell, I imagine conservative think tanks have already done their studies to try and prove the virus is non-existent or there are problems with the vaccines, would be a huge story if something concrete came out of it that held up under lab conditions.

Or is the belief that there will be unknown side effects far down the road even if everyone was on the up and up in the development? That is a risk we take with any new medication, if you believe the scope of the problem and the death numbers, it is a risk taken in the now to ensure the future.

Is what it is, I'm curious about the logic and do feel that people on both sides believe they are doing what is right in their own way.

Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/05/21 08:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Trite
That's hilarious and looks like someone has already done it lol


Haha probably have, but I just googled create a t-shirt and put it together quick
Posted by: Ippo4ever

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/05/21 09:25 AM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Is what it is, I'm curious about the logic and do feel that people on both sides believe they are doing what is right in their own way.


This last line spoke out to me most. The two sides have not been this divided since the Civil War; you can ask supporters from either side about certain events and you will hear completely different stories. Now obviously our previous polarizing president was a catalyst for sectionalism, but I believe the fault lies with the media. The extreme biases of media from both sides are pushing their agendas with misinformation to the point of brainwashing. What is the solution? How can we wake up the masses to realize it is not left vs. right or repub vs. dem but actually the few elite vs. the rest of us? Like you said, at the end of the day people are just acting in their own interests and what they think is right.
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/05/21 09:52 AM

Heres one a little off subject but could get a good debate:

Just saw some vid with that Elliott page that referred to the group as lgbtqia+ which Ive never heard of, so googled it and opened a can of worms LOL. LGBTQQIP2SAA is another thing apparently, aswell as LGBTIQCAPGNGFNBA is another, whats peoples take on this ever increasing topic, I read a while back theres over a thousand different different genders now, lets hear your take on this...
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/05/21 10:04 AM




I think communities develop their own jargon. People pay too much attention to these sorts of things, self labeling, branding, people who base their identity on one thing.

On LGBT thing personally will do my best to call a trans person by what they want to be called. A conservative friend of mine claims there are laws to penalize people for calling trans people by improper pronouns in place in Canada and is terrified that they will be implemented in the US. He is convinced this is a huge piece of "the left"s agenda. I run in some pretty left circles and don't see people pushing for it. You might be able to find someone on twitter who wants it, but I've not heard a politician advocate for this and doubt most of your neighbors do.

On a multitude of issues I've seen twitter posts by extremists pundits on both sides be accepted as representative of what all people on the right/left believe. If you want to find an enemy, look around and you can find one, guarantee someone on the internet believes something you believe is abhorrent. Just be excellent to each other and keep the party going dudes.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/05/21 03:21 PM

It's called mental illness Matty.
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/05/21 03:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Trite
It's called mental illness Matty.


lol elaborate, im intrigued by opinions on it, working with a transgender who hates all these different things
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/05/21 03:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Matty
Originally Posted By: Trite
It's called mental illness Matty.


lol elaborate, im intrigued by opinions on it, working with a transgender who hates all these different things


Still should call people what they wish to be called or simply not deal with them.

Born in the wrong body...can you be born wrong species too?


...
Posted by: Jarnoh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 11:16 AM

https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2021/05/06/laurel-hubbard-olympics-weightlifting/

Stuff like this does bother me: how is it fair to women to have to compete with someone who was a regular men up till somehwere in his thirties?
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 11:24 AM

yeh im quite open minded for transgender stuff, but ive never agreed with that sort of thing at all
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 12:34 PM

Its mental illness just like bulimia, schizo, multiple personality disorder....
Change my mind that these mental disorders are legit and a man thinking he is a woman isnt a legit mental disorder. If i claimed to be from the future the world would call me crazy and not play along with my fantasy. If I tell the world I think I am an 8 year old girl then they have to play along?
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 12:35 PM

Remember the thing about vaccine manufacturers....Johnson and Johnson couldnt even make "Tear Free" baby shampoo work correctly....
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 12:51 PM

love how noone answers my questions about why they disbelieve the vaccines or covid and just keeps trashing vaccines and the manufacturers. You know you're encouraging disinformation which will lead to deaths if people follow it, right?

Vaccines are the best hope we've got to get past epidemics with minimum deaths. Antivaxers have been a problem with every epidemic we have developed a vaccine for and this one is no exception. But when we can get enough people vaccinated we can eliminate diseases. Completely. We've done it with polio. we've done it with smallpox.

Polio didn't go off without a hitch. Shortly after the rollout there was an issue called the "Cutter incident". There was an issue with one manufacturer in 1955 which resulted in 40,000 cases of polio. This lead to more stringent vaccine manufacture standards being developed which are in place today. We take risks in developing any medications, sure, if you hit one that can mess you up. But so can diseases.

If something similar to the cutter incident happened with Covid, we would already know.

Worst case if you're wrong is hundreds of thousands of deaths with no end to the pandemic. Evidence for this is the science of epidemiology and the history of how every viral disease we know about has worked. What is the worst case if I am wrong? What is the evidence for it?


Fucking politics man, can we just talk about bigfoot or something?


Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 01:10 PM


78.8 is the average life expectancy for an American.
2/3rds of all COVID deaths came from people 75 or older.
COVID is real, the threat is real to some, the panic is fabricated. Schools were locked down for a year yet kids 17 and under have experienced a whopping 277 deaths due to "covid" related conditions. Zero threat to kids and the threat to those 45 and younger are miniscule. Kids missed an ENTIRE year of their life because of this fabricated panic. But But But we are protecting Grandmaw......well actually Coronary Artery Disease is the leading cause of death at almost 600,000 yet the world keeps spinning. Cancer at a close second with about 500,000 a year but lets change HUMANITY for a virus that has a 99.6% recovery rate. Science.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 01:10 PM

I like you Blim. I appreciate the intellectual tennis honestly. Keeps me sharp.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 01:15 PM

If i was 85 years old and not worried about any potential side affects, sure give me the experimental vaccine. At 38 I'll play my odds with the hand my immune system has dealt me and not add another unproven vaccine to the stack the goverment has given me against my will. At my age and according to the data.....im more likely to die of self inflicted gun shot wound or car crash than COVID.
Posted by: Jarnoh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 01:15 PM

The problem with the vaccines is that they haven't gone through the regular long term testing for vaccines. That doesn't mean they're bad, but there's always a risk involved in taking it because of that unknown factor. If the chance of getting seriously ill from Covid is very low for someone, why would you take that vaccine at that point? Of course it's a totally different situation for someone who is at risk of getting seriously ill.

I'm by no means an expert, but don't think the idea behind the Covid vaccines is to totally get rid of the virus. The flu isn't going anywhere, neither are all the viruses causing a common cold.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 01:20 PM

The most common argument for those who are low risk to get the vaccines is even if it has no impact on you the belief currently is that you will still be contagious and spread the virus even without symptoms, therefore the more vaccinations the better.

Here is a study with strong indications that asymptomatic spread is a strong factor.

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-3012

The idea really is to completely get rid of the virus, covid doesnt have as many strains as the flu or rhinovirus yet, but the more it spreads as we're seeing still in places like India and Brazil the more remote this possibility.

The vaccines were rushed through manufacture, but this has been the case in other campaigns in history. To take them is a risk you take for the good of humanity.

Posted by: Jarnoh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 01:32 PM

Lol, the current belief is subject to change. I've also heard that people who are vaccinated could possibly spread the virus. The bottom line is: nobody should be able to decide for you or your kids to take a vaccine. Especially one that is still not completely tested.

I've got Covid at the moment (tested positve on two test) and hardly have any symptoms at all. For myself and my kids I rather have the immune system learn to deal with the threat. Of course it can be a completely different situation for other people, but those people, or a government, should never be able to decide what happens to my body.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 01:42 PM

Viruses existence on planet earth= 1.5 billion years
Humans existence on the planet earth= 200k years in our iteration or 6 million for some form of terrestrial sapien
We can only hope to coexist. We will not eradicate it. I am all for it if you want it. I wont tell you otherwise. I also wont be told to if my own research comes to a diffrent conclusion. Humanity doesnt pay my bills, put shingles on my house, or is generaly nice in public. The "pandemic" has brought out the worst in humanity. Masks have taken away any semblence of kindness and courtesy. This has pushed people away from each other in a society that is getting more divided already. People dont smile anymore or say excuse me or say thank you. We avoid contact becasue of the fear. I dont generally like people but dammit if I smile at you and say excuse me then you should reciprocate the kindness. That is going away.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 01:42 PM

We forgot the trans debate already lol
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 01:43 PM

Sure, scientific beliefs change all the time in the face of evidence. There is a study going on right now with results expected later this Summer on whether vaccinated people are as contagious as unvaccinated, initial data seems to indicate they are not. But when comparing data with opinion, I will side with data every time.
Posted by: Jarnoh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 01:44 PM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing


To take them is a risk you take for the good of humanity.



Wrong: you take a risk for people who are at risk from developing serious issues from getting Covid. They can be protected by getting the vaccine themselves.

Preseting getting vaccinated against Covid as a moral obligation is trying to push aside our right to decide for ourselves what happens to our bodies by means of some sort of emotional blackmail.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 01:52 PM

Since you follow the data....... XX and XY right? Man and woman?
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 01:54 PM

The more community transmission occurs, even among the at risk, the more chance there is the virus mutates to the degree that the vaccines are no longer effective. That is why I say it is for the good of humanity.

Not advocating forcing anyone to do anything, just saying I believe the data and that it is the right thing to do regardless of personal risk level.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 01:55 PM

Gender man, I understand it's a thing but usually don't touch it with a 10 foot pole. As I said will do my best to be nice to people even if they are working on changing their gender. I don't give af what bathroom they use or if they get married. Beyond that, if they believe there are more genders they can believe it, don't see any harm coming my way from it or benefit from debating them on it.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 01:58 PM

How you guys feeling about Biden authorizing the DOJ to interfere with the Audit in Arizona? You still think the Audit is nonsense? If there was nothing to uncover, why go to these measures?
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 02:00 PM

That's Garland, not Biden. The audit is in violation of federal election law by doing anything with ballots without observers from both sides present. It is illegal under federal law to hand ballots to a private company without oversite. As I said, I woudln't trust a damn thing they come out with under those circumstances, it is theater designed to further diminish people's faith in the election system.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 02:07 PM

Not discussing the vaccine any more. It is pointless at this point. If you can't see something fishy in the collusion between pharma, media and Gov, the whistle blower who outed them for presenting their investors that this is an "endemic", and they want babies who are not at risk to get the shot, the rushing of getting the shot, using social media influencers and paying them, giving themselves a billion dollar marketing campaign, using marketing techniques, the hiding the fact it sheds and gets other people sick, not having any data from mid to long term testing, 100% death rate for Animals, MRNA vaccines being deemed unethical to get it get it get it, highly vaccinated areas having more positive results, them changing PCR tests for areas of vaccinated and unvaccinated to further manipulate results...there is nothing that will change your mind and you are indoctrinated. All of those should be alarming to your moral compass, regardless of political belief. I mean, did any of you who got it ask for an ingredient insert or pull the list online before getting the shot? Any of you check VAERS reporting, daily, weekly, monthly, at all?

Your feelings do not change your DNA. Gender is a social construct argument is cool, marriage is a social construct too and so is the notion of having a job, so is working, so is having a home...Taking hormone blockers and cutting off parts of your body to be your "true self" sounds like a mental disorder, looks like a mental disorder, is starting to be looked at as normal...
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 02:10 PM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
That's Garland, not Biden. The audit is in violation of federal election law by doing anything with ballots without observers from both sides present. It is illegal under federal law to hand ballots to a private company without oversite. As I said, I woudln't trust a damn thing they come out with under those circumstances, it is theater designed to further diminish people's faith in the election system.


The Audit is 24/7 streamed and the DOJ can be stopped by Biden, stop bro.

100 plus lawyers to stop it
Multiple sites did not let Republicans oversee any counting
The bias is strong in your post Blim

If Republicans were charged with stealing it for Trump, I would fully support an audit that direction too.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 02:12 PM

I find it hard to believe they streamed every second of all 2 million ballots, that's impossible. A company run by a trumper with free reign, I would expect them to cheat. 2 bipartisan audits and a hand recount found biden won.

48 courts ruled against trump already, there is no evidence beyond his words. Judges don't just throw out evidence willy nilly. They deal with evidence in literal matters of life and death every day. Why would they? What's the motivation?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 02:13 PM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Sure, scientific beliefs change all the time in the face of evidence. There is a study going on right now with results expected later this Summer on whether vaccinated people are as contagious as unvaccinated, initial data seems to indicate they are not. But when comparing data with opinion, I will side with data every time.




100% mortality rate for MRNA vaccines tested on animals and was deemed unethical by the medical community, until Obama and Fauci decided the labs continuing the testing needed funding. Nothing evil about that...Guess they had faith in the 0% survival rate.

Your quote response: Will the cycles be tested the same? The PCR changed testing on Biden's first day in office. Nothing evil about that and no way they would manipulate the numbers...like the numbers of positive cases, hospitalizations, and deaths that are all manipulated.


How are the states that are going mask less doing? Are they living? Blim, you are in TN right?

Think the gloom, doom, and terror show has been proven to be bullshit for the most part. UFC just had 15,000 people at an event. Live your life.
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 02:13 PM

so who would win, north american big foot or a himalayan yeti? my money is on the yeti due to training at altitude.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 02:15 PM

Yeah my money is on the yeti too. Apes can literally rip off your arm, don't punch them. Can ape strength beat jiu jitsu mojo? Could Demian Maia sub a chimp?
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 02:18 PM

i think apes (and i'd assume cryptids like big foots) also have better flexibility than humans. so think a jits master would either get out powered or they could escape the subs. or just get really pissed after having an arm or leg snapped and go ape (so to speak) and kill their foe after that.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 02:23 PM

How you guys view BLM?
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Trite
How you guys view BLM?


Quick Answer? Cult.
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/06/21 03:49 PM

a broad social movement doing lots of good work in US. not talking about the trademarked group or whatever.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/07/21 08:39 AM

BLM is the black Klan. Take disenfrachised people who feel hopeless and make them do the bidding of a few while those at the top take financial gains and political appointments. Tell people they are being mistreated and the "organization" will give you the power to change your circumstance. The political clout BLM has is disconcerting. You cant preach for black solidarity and call Tim Scott a coon in the same breath. Textbook Klan. If it was called White Lives Matter it would already be associated with the Klan.....am I wrong?
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/07/21 09:02 AM

My personal experiences with BLM have been fine. Were huge protests in Knoxville around the time of Floyd, totally peaceful. Police were fine too, no tear gas or rubber bullets. Vast amount of protests went this way. They made their points and things died down. Is that worthy of respect in regard to them or any other organization?

They are back active in my area, recently student was shot by the police at a mostly black school here. Different interpretations coming out from different people based on the video and circumstances. Still peaceful protests, I'm not worried about safety or anything from them.

As far as political influence goes, are there particular policies you are concerned about? "Defund the police" as a slogan seemed to scare a lot of moderates. But on the other side they are a significant portion of a lot of city budgets, in many cases they advocated spending on other programs or other approaches rather than the current approach, not advocating for no police.

Police reform or the validity of race based advocacy groups are in a way their own discussions which could get into a lot of their own details.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/07/21 11:11 AM

If we defund the police and I police myself.....i cant promise my ethics wont change.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/07/21 11:35 AM

Yeah but by defunding they mean cutting down on the police budget and using that money for other programs, not eliminating the police completely. Would your town hurt from less speed traps? Arbitrary opinion I guess.

Gets into the broader topic of police reform. Phreak probably has strong opinions and a lot of insider knowledge about it. I don't have particularly strong opinions about it.

But I did grow up in WV with some corrupt bored small city cops, I get fear of the police as a concept. And I sure af wouldn't have wanted to grow up black there. And I don't hold a lot of judgment for people protesting the feeling that they are being racially targeted by them, feel like it's not my place.
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/07/21 11:35 AM

so the shedding thing - you guys are saying the vaccines are giving people covid? cos thats how shedding works right? its giving someone the virus and them passing it on? does that make them more likely to pass it on than any other person who has the virus?

intrigued to learn about this
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/07/21 12:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Matty
so the shedding thing - you guys are saying the vaccines are giving people covid? cos thats how shedding works right? its giving someone the virus and them passing it on? does that make them more likely to pass it on than any other person who has the virus?

intrigued to learn about this


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7461745/

Due diligence/negligence. I haven't completely read the study. It does mention shedding however.

Edit: The study refers to the WuFlu virus, not the vaccine. I have read alot of the anecdotal accounts of women who have experienced irregular menstrual cycles as of late. Even seen some of shocking imagery to back the claims. I struggle to connect the menstrual issues with the vaccines and Covid. None of the available vaccines in the western world contain the attenuated or actual virus.

Having said that a person who receives a vaccine should logically be unable to shed a virus that they do not have. The vaccine acts as more of a pop up blocker than an antivirus.

The menstrual issues COULD be caused by some unknown side effect of the vaccine recipient. This type of side effect I dont believe would have been caught in clinical trials. They would only have monitored the individual who received the vaccine and any adverse effects that said recipient encountered. I doubt there would be any data tracking that would support the idea of adverse effects happening to close individuals who may have come into contact with a test subject.

I have yet to hear of anyone who received the vaccine to be having these menstrual issues. Only those around people who have been jabbed. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Menstrual cycles have also been rumoured to revolve around lunar cycles. Recent studies show that this is true for some women and not all. We did just have a supermoon.
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/07/21 08:55 PM

yes GunnerJordan, you're wrong...
Posted by: MMA Phreak

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/08/21 12:34 AM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
love how noone answers my questions about why they disbelieve the vaccines or covid and just keeps trashing vaccines and the manufacturers. You know you're encouraging disinformation which will lead to deaths if people follow it, right?

Vaccines are the best hope we've got to get past epidemics with minimum deaths. Antivaxers have been a problem with every epidemic we have developed a vaccine for and this one is no exception. But when we can get enough people vaccinated we can eliminate diseases. Completely. We've done it with polio. we've done it with smallpox.

Polio didn't go off without a hitch. Shortly after the rollout there was an issue called the "Cutter incident". There was an issue with one manufacturer in 1955 which resulted in 40,000 cases of polio. This lead to more stringent vaccine manufacture standards being developed which are in place today. We take risks in developing any medications, sure, if you hit one that can mess you up. But so can diseases.

If something similar to the cutter incident happened with Covid, we would already know.

Worst case if you're wrong is hundreds of thousands of deaths with no end to the pandemic. Evidence for this is the science of epidemiology and the history of how every viral disease we know about has worked. What is the worst case if I am wrong? What is the evidence for it?


Fucking politics man, can we just talk about bigfoot or something?




full disclosure: i am fully vaccinated...

while i don't generally adhere to the "slippery slope" argument, i feel it's apropos in this case. how many things can an individual do that could be viewed as "good for humanity"? just a short list off the top of my head:

- no alcohol, tobacco, weed, excessive food (obesity), etc. these things are known to cause health issues that could potentially divert medical resources from normally healthy persons.

- no personal combustion engine use. you should live close enough to your job that you shouldn't have to rely on fossil fuels that pollute the environment to get you to work. your need to live in a big house doesn't supersede society's need for a clean environment.

as long as these things remain personal choice, people who think like me have no problem. where issues arise are when these "choices" are forced upon people. we are quickly approaching the threshold of "choice" being forced upon us. for me, yes, i chose to get vaccinated. my 17 year old son? i recommended to him that he not get the vaccine, but left the choice up to him (he has chosen not to get it). i am by no mean an "anti-vaxxer". i have gotten the flu vaccine pretty much every year for the past 4-5 years.

we all know that this virus has been HIGHLY politicized by BOTH sides. the boots on the ground (the vast majority of us) are the rats in this experiment. time will tell how it will shake out. for me, i chose to believe my government that getting the vaccine was the right choice. the day that i'm truly not sure that the government doesn't have my best health interests at heart is the day i STRONGLY consider finding another government.

i realize i'm a bit all over the place in my opinions on this matter. i guess to summarize, i'm all about personal choice. the data is far from conclusive either way. as long as nobody tell me or my family that we have to get it, i'm ok with everyone else's choice.
Posted by: MMA Phreak

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/08/21 12:50 AM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Yeah but by defunding they mean cutting down on the police budget and using that money for other programs, not eliminating the police completely. Would your town hurt from less speed traps? Arbitrary opinion I guess.

Gets into the broader topic of police reform. Phreak probably has strong opinions and a lot of insider knowledge about it. I don't have particularly strong opinions about it.

But I did grow up in WV with some corrupt bored small city cops, I get fear of the police as a concept. And I sure af wouldn't have wanted to grow up black there. And I don't hold a lot of judgment for people protesting the feeling that they are being racially targeted by them, feel like it's not my place.


BLM as an idea? i'm completely fine with it. BLM the organization? i have issues with it.

one of the things that makes me chuckle is the hypocrisy of "it takes more training/schooling to be a hair dresser than it does to be a cop" as a way of denigrating cops, yet the defunders fail to own up to the reality that defunding will lead to an even more under trained police force. the utopian, pie in the sky idea that social workers can replace cops in a lot of situations just isn't a reality. the few times that i've worked with our county mental health crisis unit, they won't do anything without us being there. i was completely underwhelmed with their ability to try and de-escalate the individual. it was like watching a rookie handle the call.

while still in the early stages of implementation, the results are in. those cities that have "defunded" the police have seen huge spikes in violent crime. the ironic side effect is that those people who the defunding effort is supposed to help, are the most negatively impacted by the effects. the elites who push these policies still have their police and private security protection. this is a big social experiment being played out in real time and those with the least to lose are the ones who are playing the cards.

by and large, the system works. those few bad apples are getting theirs. i'd be in favor of mandatory body cams for all police. there are still a ton of agencies that don't have them because of cost. defunding isn't helping the cause...
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/08/21 09:31 AM

Originally Posted By: MMA Phreak
Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Yeah but by defunding they mean cutting down on the police budget and using that money for other programs, not eliminating the police completely. Would your town hurt from less speed traps? Arbitrary opinion I guess.

Gets into the broader topic of police reform. Phreak probably has strong opinions and a lot of insider knowledge about it. I don't have particularly strong opinions about it.

But I did grow up in WV with some corrupt bored small city cops, I get fear of the police as a concept. And I sure af wouldn't have wanted to grow up black there. And I don't hold a lot of judgment for people protesting the feeling that they are being racially targeted by them, feel like it's not my place.


BLM as an idea? i'm completely fine with it. BLM the organization? i have issues with it.

one of the things that makes me chuckle is the hypocrisy of "it takes more training/schooling to be a hair dresser than it does to be a cop" as a way of denigrating cops, yet the defunders fail to own up to the reality that defunding will lead to an even more under trained police force. the utopian, pie in the sky idea that social workers can replace cops in a lot of situations just isn't a reality. the few times that i've worked with our county mental health crisis unit, they won't do anything without us being there. i was completely underwhelmed with their ability to try and de-escalate the individual. it was like watching a rookie handle the call.

while still in the early stages of implementation, the results are in. those cities that have "defunded" the police have seen huge spikes in violent crime. the ironic side effect is that those people who the defunding effort is supposed to help, are the most negatively impacted by the effects. the elites who push these policies still have their police and private security protection. this is a big social experiment being played out in real time and those with the least to lose are the ones who are playing the cards.

by and large, the system works. those few bad apples are getting theirs. i'd be in favor of mandatory body cams for all police. there are still a ton of agencies that don't have them because of cost. defunding isn't helping the cause...



Interesting stuff. You're right, the idealist in me thinks social workers could fill in but I could definitely see them acting like rookies, lacking experience in situations with real danger.


I dont have strong opinions or expertise on the whole reform thing. My arguments have been largely on the blm side so far, the topic is broad and touches on a few different things.

One thing I can say on the other side is policing seems like a very tough job that requires a lot of patience to do at all. I've worked dealing with the general public in other contexts, you run into a lot of assoles. On top of that they deal with a public either pissed they were traffic stopped or in situations where someone has already been enough of an asshole that the police were called. Not excusing bad apples, but working with the public in a job where I carry a gun at all I would last about 2 months before i couldn't take it and shot someone in the face for being a dick.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/08/21 04:41 PM

Did anybody actually see the documents that have been claimed that China was planning on weaponizing Corona in 2015 in preparation for World War Three?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/08/21 04:43 PM

Y'all who got shot up, how do you feel about the news about shedding coming out and does this impact how you feel and if you received this knowledge earlier, would it have impacted you getting the shot?
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/09/21 12:05 AM

Trite you really need to back up your points with links so we can see what youre talking about and see where you get your info from, youve posted a lot of stuff in this thread with not one link to back it up lol, back that shit up haha
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/09/21 07:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Trite
Did anybody actually see the documents that have been claimed that China was planning on weaponizing Corona in 2015 in preparation for World War Three?


Have you?
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/09/21 08:41 AM

Originally Posted By: SbrbnHstlr
Originally Posted By: Matty
so the shedding thing - you guys are saying the vaccines are giving people covid? cos thats how shedding works right? its giving someone the virus and them passing it on? does that make them more likely to pass it on than any other person who has the virus?

intrigued to learn about this


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7461745/

Due diligence/negligence. I haven't completely read the study. It does mention shedding however.

Edit: The study refers to the WuFlu virus, not the vaccine. I have read alot of the anecdotal accounts of women who have experienced irregular menstrual cycles as of late. Even seen some of shocking imagery to back the claims. I struggle to connect the menstrual issues with the vaccines and Covid. None of the available vaccines in the western world contain the attenuated or actual virus.

Having said that a person who receives a vaccine should logically be unable to shed a virus that they do not have. The vaccine acts as more of a pop up blocker than an antivirus.

The menstrual issues COULD be caused by some unknown side effect of the vaccine recipient. This type of side effect I dont believe would have been caught in clinical trials. They would only have monitored the individual who received the vaccine and any adverse effects that said recipient encountered. I doubt there would be any data tracking that would support the idea of adverse effects happening to close individuals who may have come into contact with a test subject.

I have yet to hear of anyone who received the vaccine to be having these menstrual issues. Only those around people who have been jabbed. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Menstrual cycles have also been rumoured to revolve around lunar cycles. Recent studies show that this is true for some women and not all. We did just have a supermoon.


I was really intrigued about the whole shedding thing after some of the rants about it but havent found anything about it being legit, and all saying - how can u shed when the vaccines dont even contain the virus?

Would be interested to read the threads linking the vaccine to shedding as myself ive had a vaccine.

I think too much bullshit is thrown around and if it fits an agenda, people will believe that and use it without backing it up with any evidence, but ill be happily proven wrong on this
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/10/21 10:28 AM

How you guys feel about Michigan now wanting to audit votes?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/10/21 10:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Matty
Originally Posted By: SbrbnHstlr
Originally Posted By: Matty
so the shedding thing - you guys are saying the vaccines are giving people covid? cos thats how shedding works right? its giving someone the virus and them passing it on? does that make them more likely to pass it on than any other person who has the virus?

intrigued to learn about this


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7461745/

Due diligence/negligence. I haven't completely read the study. It does mention shedding however.

Edit: The study refers to the WuFlu virus, not the vaccine. I have read alot of the anecdotal accounts of women who have experienced irregular menstrual cycles as of late. Even seen some of shocking imagery to back the claims. I struggle to connect the menstrual issues with the vaccines and Covid. None of the available vaccines in the western world contain the attenuated or actual virus.

Having said that a person who receives a vaccine should logically be unable to shed a virus that they do not have. The vaccine acts as more of a pop up blocker than an antivirus.

The menstrual issues COULD be caused by some unknown side effect of the vaccine recipient. This type of side effect I dont believe would have been caught in clinical trials. They would only have monitored the individual who received the vaccine and any adverse effects that said recipient encountered. I doubt there would be any data tracking that would support the idea of adverse effects happening to close individuals who may have come into contact with a test subject.

I have yet to hear of anyone who received the vaccine to be having these menstrual issues. Only those around people who have been jabbed. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Menstrual cycles have also been rumoured to revolve around lunar cycles. Recent studies show that this is true for some women and not all. We did just have a supermoon.


I was really intrigued about the whole shedding thing after some of the rants about it but havent found anything about it being legit, and all saying - how can u shed when the vaccines dont even contain the virus?

Would be interested to read the threads linking the vaccine to shedding as myself ive had a vaccine.

I think too much bullshit is thrown around and if it fits an agenda, people will believe that and use it without backing it up with any evidence, but ill be happily proven wrong on this


Who are you reading what from? Are all the people lying? Is my girlfriend lying about it? Is my ex-coworker? All the Dr's banning people who have recently had it lying? Doubt that. I wish it were not a thing and I wish I could believe any governing body from any country, but, sadly, I cannot.

Your sources seem more like bullshit and paid for, which, is why there is no point in posting them. There is no integrity in journalism and Science. This is the real world, where people get paid to slant and manipulate...or blackmailed...or fearful to go against the narrative. You know Google and CNN were outed for manipulation and collusion recently? You think Google keeps that in the top of their search results? Lol. They are telling me it is not real, so, it must not be real. Thanks for your analysis Matty.

The vaccines trick your cells into creating spike proteins of the virus lol. They are linking the spiked proteins to the blood clots lol and that is what you are shedding, the cells that were tricked into creating spiked proteins (you know, that's how the MRNA works, right, based on your response, you may not have lol)

0% survival rate for animals tested and was deemed unethical by the medical community and magically during Obamas term...that changed...nothing to see here lol.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/10/21 10:38 AM

Originally Posted By: SbrbnHstlr
Originally Posted By: Trite
Did anybody actually see the documents that have been claimed that China was planning on weaponizing Corona in 2015 in preparation for World War Three?


Have you?


I have not. Just read articles claiming they were preparing for World War Three and I am not surprised. China is very flip floppy with their hate for America, but, love for Globalist Democrats. If a war really broke out, they would more than likely side with Russia if push came to shove, as, in Obama's last year, they were siding with them up and down and even wanted to take down the Federal Reserve. Read they were testing weapons designed to attack the US...not so sure about that...as I have not read anything and I like to read opposing views and then watch what happens to get a more accurate gage on things.
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/10/21 10:59 AM

Youve surely just contradicted yourself saying they all lie then claiming you read something in an article lol
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/10/21 02:58 PM

I read multiple articles, often written from different vantage points and then see how people operate. The information itself is usually bias in one way or the other, it is best to read from an unbiased stance and see how the movement happens to get a more clear picture. Reading one side's arguments is biased and I am against that. Which is what I see mostly in this thread lol.

And people are paid, and blackmailed to slant their articles...or they do it with intent and collude with other outlets (Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, as recently exposed in the Veritas video) and they then work with big tech on censoring and suppressing (twitter, facebook, Google, IG, Snapchat) to further slant a view.

I mean the Google and CNN outing videos are out there. Not sure if wiped from the internet yet (they may be) I mean someone within Google admitting to slanting search results and CNN admitting to widescale collusion and running pieces to further divide and push the Liberal agenda are not things they want out there...I mean...he did say they were going to go back to pushing Global Warming again and they have lol.

Never in history were the good guys the one's who relied on marketing tactics, other people's fears, and censoring of free thinking. Not sure how this is not obvious which side is doing this tho...but...ok
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/10/21 03:00 PM

Who else has seen the 2009 video that has resurfaced of Fauci talking about H1N1? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/11/21 09:04 AM

Wrong about what Drink?
BLM? They are "protesting" in Birmingham now and threatining violence if the black female police chief and the black mayor dont step down because a black man shot at police and was subsequently killed by police. Apart from not wearing hoods in public their purpose is intimidation through numbers, doxxing, subterfuge, and a lack of REAL transparecny with their overall goals. I think all Humans matter and grew up poor white trash in a town that was 75% black. My views about oppresion and mistreatment are very diffrent from someoen who has never been the only white face on a bus or in a classroom. Bullied and beaten because of your skin color isnt fun, been there. I experienced RACISM as a white male in majority black school district and town. My only "advantage" was a two parent household. Me and my classmates had equal footing....of course i wasnt offered any scholorships and watched people who did worse than me receive them. I think BLM isnt striving for "equality" its goal is preferential treatment. Equal treatment is unjust to those who scream for equity and dont care how we arrive there.
Posted by: Ippo4ever

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/11/21 09:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Trite
Who are you reading what from? Are all the people lying? Is my girlfriend lying about it? Is my ex-coworker? All the Dr's banning people who have recently had it lying? Doubt that. I wish it were not a thing and I wish I could believe any governing body from any country, but, sadly, I cannot.

Your sources seem more like bullshit and paid for, which, is why there is no point in posting them. There is no integrity in journalism and Science. This is the real world, where people get paid to slant and manipulate...or blackmailed...or fearful to go against the narrative. You know Google and CNN were outed for manipulation and collusion recently? You think Google keeps that in the top of their search results? Lol. They are telling me it is not real, so, it must not be real. Thanks for your analysis Matty.

The vaccines trick your cells into creating spike proteins of the virus lol. They are linking the spiked proteins to the blood clots lol and that is what you are shedding, the cells that were tricked into creating spiked proteins (you know, that's how the MRNA works, right, based on your response, you may not have lol)

0% survival rate for animals tested and was deemed unethical by the medical community and magically during Obamas term...that changed...nothing to see here lol.


What?
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/11/21 10:07 AM

I think the Loch Ness Monster is fake.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/11/21 10:24 AM

Originally Posted By: GunnerJordan
I think the Loch Ness Monster is fake.


Haha almost posted about this a while back. Apparently whales like to float on their backs near the surface with their penises sticking up out of the water. Oceanologists believe this has caused some reports of sea monsters.

Ocean is mind blowing though, lot of unexplored territory out there. Hard to tell what they may find some day.
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/11/21 11:01 AM

Whale Dicks? How did we come to this!?

Likely just a boot and some tires lol
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/11/21 12:13 PM

Is it possible a mesozoic age water beast is roaming the oceans somewhere? Sure. But in a lake in Scotland with little to no food supply? Not plausible. I want to believe in all these things existing.....hell the XFiles is one of my top 3 shows. The older I get the more I realize that it is easier to believe in an after life than mythical creatures roaming around. Hell, aliens are more plausible than a 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea style squid.....or Kraken for you Jack Sparrow fans.
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/11/21 12:43 PM

Back to the WuFlu topic;
This article was just pushed to me by Google:
"Why are people reporting irregular menstruation after the COVID-19 shot? Experts explain. | Globalnews.ca"
https://globalnews.ca/news/7841955/covid-19-vaccine-irregular-menstruation/
Posted by: Snake

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/12/21 01:53 AM

Don't know if this would qualify as unrelated to the thread, but figured I'd post it here since I found it interesting.



To me it seems like a very clear example of ends justifying the means given what was considered optimal advice in regards to raising children, even if the monkeys were quite obviously subjected to horrifying treatment.

It's quite interesting to see how things that would qualify as common sense nowadays were in stark contrast to what was advised back in the day - similar to how cigarettes were thought to have no harm although even more unsettling in this case since we're talking about the "optimal" treatment children were supposed to receive at home.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/12/21 12:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Ippo4ever
Originally Posted By: Trite
Who are you reading what from? Are all the people lying? Is my girlfriend lying about it? Is my ex-coworker? All the Dr's banning people who have recently had it lying? Doubt that. I wish it were not a thing and I wish I could believe any governing body from any country, but, sadly, I cannot.

Your sources seem more like bullshit and paid for, which, is why there is no point in posting them. There is no integrity in journalism and Science. This is the real world, where people get paid to slant and manipulate...or blackmailed...or fearful to go against the narrative. You know Google and CNN were outed for manipulation and collusion recently? You think Google keeps that in the top of their search results? Lol. They are telling me it is not real, so, it must not be real. Thanks for your analysis Matty.

The vaccines trick your cells into creating spike proteins of the virus lol. They are linking the spiked proteins to the blood clots lol and that is what you are shedding, the cells that were tricked into creating spiked proteins (you know, that's how the MRNA works, right, based on your response, you may not have lol)

0% survival rate for animals tested and was deemed unethical by the medical community and magically during Obamas term...that changed...nothing to see here lol.


What?


What is confusing about this at all?
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 05:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Trite
Originally Posted By: Ippo4ever
Originally Posted By: Trite
Who are you reading what from? Are all the people lying? Is my girlfriend lying about it? Is my ex-coworker? All the Dr's banning people who have recently had it lying? Doubt that. I wish it were not a thing and I wish I could believe any governing body from any country, but, sadly, I cannot.

Your sources seem more like bullshit and paid for, which, is why there is no point in posting them. There is no integrity in journalism and Science. This is the real world, where people get paid to slant and manipulate...or blackmailed...or fearful to go against the narrative. You know Google and CNN were outed for manipulation and collusion recently? You think Google keeps that in the top of their search results? Lol. They are telling me it is not real, so, it must not be real. Thanks for your analysis Matty.

The vaccines trick your cells into creating spike proteins of the virus lol. They are linking the spiked proteins to the blood clots lol and that is what you are shedding, the cells that were tricked into creating spiked proteins (you know, that's how the MRNA works, right, based on your response, you may not have lol)

0% survival rate for animals tested and was deemed unethical by the medical community and magically during Obamas term...that changed...nothing to see here lol.


What?


What is confusing about this at all?


im with ippo lol, doesnt make alot of sense and still lacking any kind of source for your claims. my sources are bullshit and payed for even tho i dont have a side or agenda and never made claims about anything so what sources are you talking about here? Dont think anyone is stupid enough to believe google isnt manipulated with their chosen sources, google is not somewhere you search unless its something very basic and not something theyll hide the truth
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 05:55 AM

Sad and scary that even non-conspiracy types know that you cant trust Google as a search engine huh Matty. Why is the world so scared of legit free and open source information sharing?
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 06:04 AM

yeh thats why i believe very little i read, everywhere seems to have an agenda, so never know whats truth, which is why i dont get passionately backing stories, that for one dont even sound legit, but also dont even have a legit source to back them, if i wanted to find something to back up something i wanted to believe, i could easily find an article for it, and itll likely be a load of bullshit lol.

This is also why i like busting trites balls about this stuff, because its all mad rambling and not one source provided, anyone can find an article, choose to believe it, then rant about it passionately then be too embarassed to admit where the source was found lol

Free speech is a myth, especially online imo
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 08:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Matty
Originally Posted By: Trite
Originally Posted By: Ippo4ever
[quote=Trite]Who are you reading what from? Are all the people lying? Is my girlfriend lying about it? Is my ex-coworker? All the Dr's banning people who have recently had it lying? Doubt that. I wish it were not a thing and I wish I could believe any governing body from any country, but, sadly, I cannot.

Your sources seem more like bullshit and paid for, which, is why there is no point in posting them. There is no integrity in journalism and Science. This is the real world, where people get paid to slant and manipulate...or blackmailed...or fearful to go against the narrative. You know Google and CNN were outed for manipulation and collusion recently? You think Google keeps that in the top of their search results? Lol. They are telling me it is not real, so, it must not be real. Thanks for your analysis Matty.

The vaccines trick your cells into creating spike proteins of the virus lol. They are linking the spiked proteins to the blood clots lol and that is what you are shedding, the cells that were tricked into creating spiked proteins (you know, that's how the MRNA works, right, based on your response, you may not have lol)

0% survival rate for animals tested and was deemed unethical by the medical community and magically during Obamas term...that changed...nothing to see here lol.


What?


What is confusing about this at all?


im with ippo lol, doesnt make alot of sense and still lacking any kind of source for your claims. my sources are bullshit and payed for even tho i dont have a side or agenda and never made claims about anything so what sources are you talking about here? Dont think anyone is stupid enough to believe google isnt manipulated with their chosen sources, google is not somewhere you search unless its something very basic and not something theyll hide the truth[/quote]


Then what is confusing? You said you could not find any truth to shedding and everything you read debunks it. I retorted that is due to bullshit articles you are seeing. What was confusing? That literally proved my point.

What I said was straightforward...you agreed that Google is a liar. They were exposed during the campaign. There was video floating around..did you not see it? Pretty sure it is wiped by now. What is confusing?

I know people that experienced shedding...no animals have survived any mrna testing...sources cannot be trusted...I simplified how the MRNA shot works...as I doubt some of you have even looked into it...tbh..what did I say that was confusing? Help me out...what confused you?

Outside of someone trying to be an asshole for laughs...My reading comprehension has been tested...top five percent of understanding baby. Was reading Stephen Hawking books when I was 15. Let's not get into that did not make sense. It is simplified above.

Not embarrassed about anything. That is something you have stuck in YOUR head Matty. You cannot tell me how I feel. That's ridiculous. Even though I have told you that is not the case...YOU are pushing that. You need what you preceive to be an authority or unbiased or something who has claimed to have done research validate what is being said? Journalism has the integrity of a prostitute.

Forensic Audit started in New Hampshire today.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 09:00 AM

Lot of politics is nebulous these days. Information, information from the internet, the television, the radio. Disinformation, made up information, strong information, opinion, anecdote, we have more information flying at our faces than any other time in human history, it's overwhelming. As the great Frank Zappa said, "Information is not knowledge". How do you decide on your information sources?

People will call any news fake for one reason or another. If you go outside msm to internet articles those can just as easily be called fake. In a way we're all hedging our bets on truth. Why do you believe your sources for truth? Are they trying to sell you something? Are you betting on 2002 fedor or 2020 Fedor? Does your truth have strong odds? does it have history? Is it likely to retire soon or fight forever?

I keep falling back on science. In my opinion science is the gsp in his prime of truth. It gets better with age, it rarely loses a round, and when it does it has very strong methods to fill in those gaps which are not present in a lot of other information sources. I believe that the scientific method, publishing, and peer review process are our strongest indicators for truth in this world. I have spent years betting my life on science and winning. When the chips are down most will, how many people won't go to the hospital if they are dying because they do not trust doctor's truth?

As extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, I will generally be suspicious of politics or beliefs which run contrary to science, and generally believe career experts with data and history of accuracy. Currently data supports the experts on vaccines and election security to be true by a wide margin.


Statements like that 48 judges and thousands of scientists are bribed, and bribed to such a degree that the bribe is beyond the reward to refuse the bribe, and that the bribe will not be discovered by the IRS are like betting your life on Brittainy Spears to take out Stipe and prime Fedor both at once in the cage. Anything can happen but I wouldn't take the bet.
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 09:21 AM

Simply post your credible sources that give you this incredibly passionate belief that youre opinion is right trite, easy, no need for drama, just need for some sort of backup to the ramblings, I just want to see things from your point of view, because when it comes to this stuff, I find it pretty hard to, so a source of the facts youre giving us would be helpful smile
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 09:23 AM

Science is just as manipulated as journalism. Fauci funded lab in China and then said he did not and kept denying it...trust who you want. Holistic Dr's getting murdered is not coincidence or happenstance. The integrity of Science is in question...not the Science itself...and have any of these independent labs they tell us have isolated the virus collected their million dollars being offered? When I was saying it was man made...that was conspiracy theory...and look now...overwhelming support of that theory is what is believed now.

How do you guys feel about more than 120 retired US military personal signing the open letter questioning Biden's physical and mental health and election integrity?


The audit in Arizona is a joke...so much so...one is starting in New Hampshire and Michigan will soon have a county underway and Georgia is discussing audit options.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 09:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Matty
Simply post your credible sources that give you this incredibly passionate belief that youre opinion is right trite, easy, no need for drama, just need for some sort of backup to the ramblings, I just want to see things from your point of view, because when it comes to this stuff, I find it pretty hard to, so a source of the facts youre giving us would be helpful smile


Hugs and kisses
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 09:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Trite
Originally Posted By: Matty
Simply post your credible sources that give you this incredibly passionate belief that youre opinion is right trite, easy, no need for drama, just need for some sort of backup to the ramblings, I just want to see things from your point of view, because when it comes to this stuff, I find it pretty hard to, so a source of the facts youre giving us would be helpful smile


Hugs and kisses


Think this reply says it all lol
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 10:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Matty
Originally Posted By: Trite
Originally Posted By: Matty
Simply post your credible sources that give you this incredibly passionate belief that youre opinion is right trite, easy, no need for drama, just need for some sort of backup to the ramblings, I just want to see things from your point of view, because when it comes to this stuff, I find it pretty hard to, so a source of the facts youre giving us would be helpful smile


Hugs and kisses


Think this reply says it all lol


Sure does
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 06:32 PM

How you guys feel about all the deleted files where the Audit is taking place and the emergency meeting they are having, after it's bee discovered they deleted so many files (including votes being switched?)
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 06:46 PM

How you guys feel about Dominion not releasing the passwords to the voting machines? Does not sounds like transparency to me guys, sounds like guilt, ioono tho, I think it's fishy they never gave full access to the county before voting started...I wonder if they did this all over......
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 07:35 PM

didnt newsmax just apologize and settle for false claims against dominion voting systems?

i think at this point its just the my pillow guy still on about this.

can't say i've been following just looked this up 5 minutes ago.

as always, please share the sources you get your information from.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 08:17 PM

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05...ounty-machines/

I just wait and see stuff since you need a news source


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05...oting-machines/

I mean, this comes after there were was a massive dump of files and someone who had access had to have deleted them...I mean...I don't know, you guys are smart.

I mean they are claiming this could be a security threat...I mean...wouldn't want someone to dump proof of anything


https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol...ent/4995728001/

https://www.12news.com/article/news/poli...6e-899ac012bed5

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol...ent/5004443001/

There is a threat files could be tampered with..I mean...they literally just were tampered with and only Dominion has access to the files that have been tampered with...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05...-main-database/


See...I read all sides and sit back and see how people react and behave. Hard to find a left biased article really covering this seriously, as, it is just being dismissed, but, with what is happening in New Hampshire, Michigan, Georgia...I mean...is it really a joke? Would they send over 100 lawyers to stop it if it was a joke? I mean...Hard to find a Right Wing article without them digging deep into this. Over 500,000 votes have been audited so far.

I mean...they are not just checking the votes, they are checking the validity of the votes, with a 24/7 video live stream. There is full transparency and anybody who believes in the right to vote, should be taking this more seriously and lose the tribal beliefs they hold.

https://azaudit.org/
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 09:11 PM

http://sistatiden.se/1000-advokater-och-...r_U3JcX-dIh4z08

https://sorendreier.com/1000-lawyers-and...nuremberg-code/
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 09:27 PM

Never forget

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/sto...tin/6699007002/


Fauci dismisses Ivermectin, despite it's positive results for those with Covid. In fact, if it does not strike fear in you or make money for him, he opposes it and he lies a lot. The "Need more data" people are the same one's ok with giving you these shots without ANY mid to long term human studies, contradiction...no? Same with HCQ


Never forget

https://principia-scientific.com/the-ame.../bit.ly/3bqKCZ8

Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 09:29 PM

Cannot post this in my previous post

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical...ing/ar-BB1bcWQb
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 09:34 PM

LOL


https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/righ...false-positives


More sad LOL

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/invent...that-youre-sick

You assholes need more sources or naw lmmfao
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/13/21 09:37 PM

LOL

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/one-ho...esting-criteria


I highly doubt you guys will read these articles...not sure why you need these sources, when you will not read them, but, LMMFAO
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/14/21 05:19 AM

Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/14/21 10:36 AM

Did anyone see the video of Fauci's project manager? It is banned everywhere and I am hearing the contents are exactly what I believe them to be. Can someone who has watched the video rip it and send it to me, thanks
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/14/21 11:14 AM

Any of you do the magnet challenge?
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/14/21 11:24 AM

searched it and found this, literally took a minute:

-Implantable chips are the size of a grain of rice, which is bigger than the needle they use for the Covid-19 vaccine.
-Even if the chips were nano-sized, a vial of Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine contains enough doses to give 7.5 injections. So, how can you guarantee a chip goes in with every dose? You cant.
-Also, injections are given horizontally, which means that the chip would be at a 90-degree angle. But, chips need to be implanted flat so they can be powered.
-Even if we ignore all of the above-how would a magnet stick to a chip so tiny that it fits through a needle? It wouldnt.

and im suspicious about the vaccines as dont trust the government in the slightest, but dont believe the whole microchip thing at all

also this:

https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/31...avirus-myth.htm

a science based site who quote an actual expert in viruses, rather than use a tiktok video as their evidence its a chip XD
Posted by: MMA Phreak

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/14/21 11:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Snake
Don't know if this would qualify as unrelated to the thread, but figured I'd post it here since I found it interesting.



To me it seems like a very clear example of ends justifying the means given what was considered optimal advice in regards to raising children, even if the monkeys were quite obviously subjected to horrifying treatment.

It's quite interesting to see how things that would qualify as common sense nowadays were in stark contrast to what was advised back in the day - similar to how cigarettes were thought to have no harm although even more unsettling in this case since we're talking about the "optimal" treatment children were supposed to receive at home.


that was a very disturbing video. i am far from a PETA animal rights activist, but those experiments were way over the top and that doctor was a criminal for what he did to those monkeys.

with that, i'm not opposed to animal testing for human health (not fucking cosmetics or other bullshit). what is the ethical line where testing becomes torture? that line is different for everyone. for me, i would equate it to the supreme courts early definition of obscenity (we don't know how to define it, but we know it when we see it). several factors come into play when trying to draw that line. some are: the animal's level of sentience, the amount of physical pain/discomfort, the amount of emotional pain/discomfort, the length of the various discomforts, and the ability of the animal to recover from said discomforts, to name a few.
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/14/21 07:31 PM

trite, when your news sources have sections called "pro trump news" or bill themselves as "#1 pro life news website" you lose all credibility. SH, when you say wuflu same thing.

as for the animal testing stuff, science not sadism please. got lots of respect for folks doing solid anti vivisection and animal rights work (though that space certainly filled with shitty groups/people like most things).
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/15/21 09:19 AM

Drink...I provided several links....I already explained I read news from right wing and left wing sources and back away and watch how things unfold lol.


Lawmakers in Wisconsin want an Audit now too. The AZ audit is such a joke lol
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/16/21 06:04 AM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
trite, when your news sources have sections called "pro trump news" or bill themselves as "#1 pro life news website" you lose all credibility. SH, when you say wuflu same thing.

as for the animal testing stuff, science not sadism please. got lots of respect for folks doing solid anti vivisection and animal rights work (though that space certainly filled with shitty groups/people like most things).


WuFlu was a tongue in cheek comment about the origins of the virus. Apologies that my humor fell flat. Ive posted nothing but credible sources and medical articles and studies this entire thread. Attack the argument not the individual. smile

As for thr animal testing video that Snake posted. We've been doing worse to humans since the existence of that video. Most of which was done by government sponsored initiatives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_experiments

https://youtu.be/Sov_sbVCpr0
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/16/21 03:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Trite
Drink...I provided several links....I already explained I read news from right wing and left wing sources and back away and watch how things unfold lol.


Lawmakers in Wisconsin want an Audit now too. The AZ audit is such a joke lol



You have fallen down some amazingly strange rabbit holes
Posted by: MMA Phreak

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/16/21 08:20 PM

Originally Posted By: SbrbnHstlr
Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
trite, when your news sources have sections called "pro trump news" or bill themselves as "#1 pro life news website" you lose all credibility. SH, when you say wuflu same thing.

as for the animal testing stuff, science not sadism please. got lots of respect for folks doing solid anti vivisection and animal rights work (though that space certainly filled with shitty groups/people like most things).


WuFlu was a tongue in cheek comment about the origins of the virus. Apologies that my humor fell flat. Ive posted nothing but credible sources and medical articles and studies this entire thread. Attack the argument not the individual. smile

As for thr animal testing video that Snake posted. We've been doing worse to humans since the existence of that video. Most of which was done by government sponsored initiatives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_experiments

https://youtu.be/Sov_sbVCpr0



what a shitty story. 3 minutes? i'd love to see a much more detailed story about the specifics of the "experiments". again, i will say that those in power that sanctioned these types of experiments should be in jail. horrible...
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/16/21 08:51 PM

Originally Posted By: MMA Phreak

what a shitty story. 3 minutes? i'd love to see a much more detailed story about the specifics of the "experiments". again, i will say that those in power that sanctioned these types of experiments should be in jail. horrible...


Audio Only, Investigative podcast on the individuals involved and effected in Montreal. Each episode is about 30 mins. Easy listen. Dark Material.

https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/440-brainwashed?cmp=Listen_SEM_ETA
Posted by: Snake

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/16/21 08:57 PM

Originally Posted By: MMA Phreak
Originally Posted By: Snake
Don't know if this would qualify as unrelated to the thread, but figured I'd post it here since I found it interesting.



To me it seems like a very clear example of ends justifying the means given what was considered optimal advice in regards to raising children, even if the monkeys were quite obviously subjected to horrifying treatment.

It's quite interesting to see how things that would qualify as common sense nowadays were in stark contrast to what was advised back in the day - similar to how cigarettes were thought to have no harm although even more unsettling in this case since we're talking about the "optimal" treatment children were supposed to receive at home.


that was a very disturbing video. i am far from a PETA animal rights activist, but those experiments were way over the top and that doctor was a criminal for what he did to those monkeys.

with that, i'm not opposed to animal testing for human health (not fucking cosmetics or other bullshit). what is the ethical line where testing becomes torture? that line is different for everyone. for me, i would equate it to the supreme courts early definition of obscenity (we don't know how to define it, but we know it when we see it). several factors come into play when trying to draw that line. some are: the animal's level of sentience, the amount of physical pain/discomfort, the amount of emotional pain/discomfort, the length of the various discomforts, and the ability of the animal to recover from said discomforts, to name a few.

Personally, I'd have drawn the line at the inducing severe depression on monkeys, what followed after that with surrogates maiming their young was quite simply sadistic in nature in my opinion.

And to Hstlr, yeah the whole MkUltra experiments were crimes against humanity. There's no telling just how common testing like that could be in this day age either, given how secretive it all is.
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/18/21 09:08 AM

Meta Analysis of Ivermectin as an effective therapeutic against Covid-19

https://ivmmeta.com/
Posted by: Snake

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/18/21 09:40 AM

That's what being used and recommended back here to treat/prevent it, think I have two pills on my desk at home.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/19/21 02:51 PM

We have used Ivermectin in Equine medicine for MANY years to treat all sorts of viruses and bacterial infections......and worms.
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/24/21 02:27 PM

Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/25/21 02:05 PM

I think the gubberment is on to this thread. Last times ive had blocks of text all typed and organized nicely for easy reading, and they get wiped. No way its this ancient message board. Dont try to convince me otherwise.

Interesting Scientific/Statistical Paper:
https://www.mdpi.com/1648-9144/57/3/199/htm

I will break that down for anyone who requests, though it should be straight forward.
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/27/21 08:29 PM

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385v1
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/27/21 10:08 PM

sorry but i'm not buying the anti vax, anti mask stuff.

more content like this please:
https://preview.redd.it/2vhni84stcu61.jpg?auto=webp&s=bce9199143d0a5f2e9fdd569f9d3568c0ca0722b
Posted by: Snake

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/27/21 11:32 PM

What is up with your mask protocols in the US even? Inconsistent enough that I saw Red Letter Media spoof it during one of their new vids.

Are they really changing on a weekly basis?
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/28/21 04:19 AM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
sorry but i'm not buying the anti vax, anti mask stuff.

more content like this please:
https://preview.redd.it/2vhni84stcu61.jpg?auto=webp&s=bce9199143d0a5f2e9fdd569f9d3568c0ca0722b


You dont have to buy it.
Trust the Science.
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/28/21 04:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Snake
What is up with your mask protocols in the US even? Inconsistent enough that I saw Red Letter Media spoof it during one of their new vids.

Are they really changing on a weekly basis?


Weekly basis would be an exaggeration.
I'm also not American. Everyone up here in Ontario Canada have been wearing masks in public for almost 18months. And it has made no difference in our cases.

The red letter media parody was likely geared towards Fauci. Who started off saying:
No mask due to supply concerns.
No mask because it provides false sense of security
No mask due to "schmutz" getting stuck in it.
Ok, now wear a mask.
Double Mask
Triple Mask
No Mask.

I'm sure supercuts exist of Fauci being all over the place with his opinion. He still is.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/28/21 06:02 AM

Study showing no mask effectiveness hasn't been peer reviewed yet, will see if the methodology holds up.

This one found the opposite - https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Just on taking in raw data it seems like on earlier surges places with no mask mandates were hit hard. On most recent surges it seemed like that trend changed, mask mandates didn't seem to matter as much. Lot of factors, places that ended mandates early tended to have summer weather sooner, could be that had an impact.

The thing I love about science it that it changes with evidence. Covid still new, still a lot to learn, the recommendations have changed with evidence. Lately in the US I think the CDC could do a better job communicating, seems to be a lot of confusion over here and a variety of mask policies now as the case numbers are down and we start to get back to more normal.

If the evidence ends up being that masks didn't help, that's fine, we learned something new for sure about Covid. It was never about control, it was about doing our best to save lives.
Posted by: MMA Phreak

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/28/21 09:24 AM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing


The thing I love about science it that it changes with evidence. Covid still new, still a lot to learn, the recommendations have changed with evidence. Lately in the US I think the CDC could do a better job communicating, seems to be a lot of confusion over here and a variety of mask policies now as the case numbers are down and we start to get back to more normal.


this is not true. one thing i will give modern lefties is that they have raised wordsmithing to an art form. science doesn't change. scientific theories, scientific methods, scientific concepts, etc can all change. science remains unchanged. subtle difference? not really. when you reduce things to the lowest common denominator (the majority of dipshits in this country), saying shit like "i follow the science" sounds really impressive. almost undebatable. "as the science changes, so does our strategy". you can start to see how the difference isn't so subtle. what they're saying, in effect, is "science is this ultra-intellectual monolith that you're too dumb to understand. trust our scientists."

my other new favorite lefty wordsmithing is a way they try and shut down dialog on a given topic by using the "this isn't a political issue, it's a human rights issue" gimmick (BLM/critical race theory, "living wages", a host of other socialist programs, etc). meanwhile, you could literally use that BS for just about any political issue (abortion, 2A, free speech, etc.).


Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing

If the evidence ends up being that masks didn't help, that's fine, we learned something new for sure about Covid. It was never about control, it was about doing our best to save lives.


i don't think mask mandates were about control per say. i believe they were relentlessly pushed by democrats during election season to serve as a constant reminder of their false narrative that Trump caused covid (or at least his "poor" handling of it made it worse). you couldn't turn on a news cast that showed a dem politician without a mask (except when pelosi pandered to china town).
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/28/21 10:21 AM

Yes, but if someone believes something which is contrary to overwhelming scientific evidence, such as the safety and effectiveness of vaccines, would you say they do not believe in science? That is what I mean by believing in science. I believe that peer reviewed scientific conclusions are more reliable for truth than political messaging from either side or any source.

For politicians sure, the dichotomy was made in approaches to covid, different messaging between parties. Outside of the cesspool of political narratives though at least those I know wore masks because the CDC said it would help to slow the spread, help to save lives. If evidence is brought forward that this was not the case, at least we did our best to help.

Fucking loaded language man, "antiscience" "leftists", politics is a minefield alternating between anger and depression, I shouldn't have even jumped back in. Hope you all have a good day.
Posted by: MMA Phreak

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/28/21 10:49 AM

safety and efficacy of vaccines in general? or specifically, the rushed covid vaccines? in my mind there is a big difference. for myself, i weighed everything and felt that the pros of the covid vaccine outweighed the potential cons. that decision was based on MANY factors (age, job related exposures, close relatives in high risk categories, prior success with vaccines to name a few). however, i also realize that others will come to a different decision based on some or all of the same factors, or maybe more than i used and i'm perfectly ok with that, but just for this vaccine. the standard other vaccines that have stood the test of time? i'm ok with those being mandatory for school.

as far as "the CDC said (masks) would help to slow the spread, help to save lives." revisionist history. the CDC, as well as fauci, flip flopped their guidance on masks. in the beginning, we were told that the "science" said that covid particles were orders of magnitude smaller than standard surgical masks could capture. then the "science" said that covid particles attached to vapor droplets and that the masks could help with catching those. as such, we were told that masks weren't to protect you, but others. then the vaccine comes and it took roughly 5 months from the time vaccines were available until just recently when we've been told you don't need to wear one if you're vaccinated, but then we've also been told that you can still contract and spread covid if you're vaccinated (so why can vaxxed people now not wear them????). the contradictions and flip flops on masks (all based on the "science") are more than i can take. if you can't see that the mask issue is far beyond "the science" then you've got your head in the sand (either willingly or unwittingly).
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/30/21 12:12 PM

Here is a Canadian Doctor discussing the dangers of the Spike Proteins within the mRna vaccines.

https://omny.fm/shows/on-point-with-alex...es-sugge?t=2m0s
Posted by: MMA Phreak

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 05/30/21 10:34 PM

Originally Posted By: SbrbnHstlr
Here is a Canadian Doctor discussing the dangers of the Spike Proteins within the mRna vaccines.

https://omny.fm/shows/on-point-with-alex...es-sugge?t=2m0s



fucking scary shit. for me, one of the biggest concerns, and it came out fairly quickly after the vaccines hit the market, were the issues with female's reproductive systems (i have a daughter). now with this guy's info, i think we're starting to see a little more clearly what's maybe going on. the elitists have pulled a great move getting us to inoculate our people which in turn sterilizes them. yeah, yeah. that's some next level shit...

but i had a pretty heated discussion with my old man today. he's a pretty conservative guy by nature (big trumper). he was of the opinion that if you don't take the vaccine, you shouldn't be allowed out among the general populace because you're not "doing your part" to protect society. he obviously knows i'm vaccinated so i think he felt it was safe to spout this bullshit. i basically told him what i've posted here. that i don't think anyone should be made to take the vaccine (personal choice). of course he countered with the standard vaccine arguments to which i agreed. but i told him this vaccine, that was rushed to market, is not the polio or smallpox vaccine that has YEARS of data to prove it's safety and efficacy.

rambling here but in the end, i think this is just the beginning of what we'll find with this vaccine. in 5-10 years, the question will ultimately be "was the price we paid for the vaccine worth it?" i hope so...
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/02/21 11:03 AM

People against the shot are not Anti-Science lolol

How are Fauci's E-mail leaks treating you guys?



LMMFAO
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/02/21 12:17 PM

Here's a website dedicated to debunking that doctor's claims: https://byrambridle.com/
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/02/21 12:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Olir
Here's a website dedicated to debunking that doctor's claims: https://byrambridle.com/





Of quick note Olir, that website was created and paid for by the Canadian government.

It has changed drastically since the day I had my post. I will have to familiarize myself again before further commenting. It was previously a massive character attack on the Doctor and host of the radio show.

Now they've included some scientific papers. Should be a good read. I appreciate you bringing attention to it.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/03/21 08:30 AM

My question is why is are we PUSHING a vaccine when the data and numbers are showing antibodies are creating almost a 100% immunity from reinfection? The part that is lost on everyone is BIG PHARMA is a money making business. Vaccines arent free. They are being subsidized. Perhaps if we follow the lobbyst dollars to the politicians pushing vaccines then we can get a clearer picture of the deception being pushed. Vaccines work. Rushed vaccines have concerns. I have had COVID and I am in my 30's. I'll take my chances.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/92836
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/03/21 01:50 PM

Dunno where you guys are at with the pandemic, but were having basically zero to one death per day and 2 out of 3 hospitals have no Covid patients and theyre talking of extending the remaining rulings we have in place, think people are past that now and can see masses of uproar if they push thru with it, the lockdowns were, in their words, to prevent hospitals being overrun! My wife works at the biggest one in our area and gets Covid updates and theyve not had a case in weeks
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/04/21 05:13 AM

Matty.....COVID is real......but the Globalist push for unified command and control is even more real. The UK is falling, Canada is falling, the US has fallen. COVID numbers were so skewed into explosive numbers its hard to beleive what was real. I had several employees who work for me provide POSITIVE test after POSITIVE test with zero signs and symptoms. How does one get more than one POSITIVE test in a year without showing any signs at all. Strange indeed for the most deadly virus in recent human history. They never once mentioned that some people just may be immune.....
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/04/21 06:58 AM

There were some hilarious cases of people putting their tests into puddles of water or using their dog and it came back positive, Covid is 100% real but what theyre telling you is almost 100% bullshit imo
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/07/21 06:00 AM

Spot on
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/09/21 03:59 PM

Originally Posted By: GunnerJordan
Matty.....COVID is real......but the Globalist push for unified command and control is even more real. The UK is falling, Canada is falling, the US has fallen. COVID numbers were so skewed into explosive numbers its hard to beleive what was real. I had several employees who work for me provide POSITIVE test after POSITIVE test with zero signs and symptoms. How does one get more than one POSITIVE test in a year without showing any signs at all. Strange indeed for the most deadly virus in recent human history. They never once mentioned that some people just may be immune.....


I had it

Lost the sense of smell for 3 days and nothing else
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/13/21 06:31 PM

Currently awaiting apologies


Lab Leak, Virus never isolated, they knew it was a lab leak, pushed other effective medications away to get emergency auth used for said vaccines, masks don't work, I need apologies. All the crazy talk I laughed at..and who was right?


Let's not get into the voting machines and the software found, which the machines could have been controlled from another location. I'll be right about that too, aye!!! Biden didn't win the election lololol
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/13/21 06:33 PM

Covid is weaponized flu, that America was funding in the Wuhan Lab (conspiracy theory lolol)

That is another one, I'll need an apology for that too. Keep trusting the people who made it, leaked it, told you came from a bat, told you a vaccine was needed, and are ignoring the data stating how dangerous it is smile
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/13/21 06:37 PM

China is by far the biggest threat to America and freedom in the entire world. Are they really preparing for war? They are busy turning America into their bitch.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/13/21 09:55 PM

250 K ballots missing that were previously reported. Can this be verified?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/13/21 10:00 PM

Facui should be tried and hung publicly.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/14/21 07:30 AM

Some people already knew.....some dont want to know....regardless how you feel about Trump, people fail to realize he had access to MORE information than any human on earth. He wasnt saying shit just to say it. He knew. He was ousted by a swamp that cares more about maintaining DC division than actually listening to the will of the people.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/14/21 12:34 PM

Originally Posted By: GunnerJordan
Some people already knew.....some dont want to know....regardless how you feel about Trump, people fail to realize he had access to MORE information than any human on earth. He wasnt saying shit just to say it. He knew. He was ousted by a swamp that cares more about maintaining DC division than actually listening to the will of the people.


Yea, people know Politicians are corrupt and somehow, glance over to bash one guy. It's bizarre. Still awaiting the "You were right" lol that will never come and I know they won't. I still got to laugh at that much lololololol
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/15/21 07:06 AM

So when an amazingly biased group audits something that the bipartisan state had already done twice you claim a victory?

Lolololololol
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/15/21 07:14 AM

My concern with the audit is that no matter the findings one side will feel wronged.....therefore deem it illegitimate and tainted somehow. We are too divided. I will never want to live in the same place as someone like Trevor Noah, our world views are to far apart. I've lived in San Francisco and if that is what a modern liberal utopia is supposed to be.......then I dont want anything to do with that shit.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/15/21 07:27 AM

Yeah we're divided, politics is stressful and it feels like both sides are living in 2 completely different worlds. Spent a lot of time over the past few years debating every big political story that came out with people on different platforms, but lately got some irl stuff stressing and need a break from it, and definitely don't have the time to put into political research and debate on another platform like this one.

I've lived in liberal and conservative areas, not a huge difference, you get the same archetypical types of people and businesses, just a few quirks separating them. The liberal/conservative divide is more urban vs rural than state to state, in some ways that impacts the policies they advocate for.

I'm from a pretty left background, parents were hippies and union workers, whole family is dems. West Virginia lets Dupont get away with toxic chemical dumping that has killed several direct family members, environmental protection would probably pull me to the dems if nothing else did. Would rather overregulate than see more birth defects and cancer so that dupont can have a stronger quarterly balance sheet.



The audit is it's own animal. But picture it on the other foot. What if Hillary had refused to accept the results in 2016? Then she worked with dem legislators to hire a company funded by Soros who runs a recount without oversite, without allowing journalists or observers from either side to be present in violation of federal law. Several of the recounters are high ranking BLM protest organizers. Would you accept the recount results? Would you expect them to cheat?

Then they expand and start pushing for these same audits in every state Hillary lost. Would you think the dems have lost their minds? Would you think Hillary is the biggest sore loser in the world for hard denying the validation measures which have worked for the US for 200 years? Would you wonder why anyone would still support her if the official recounts came back Trump, if she lost challenging the results in court 48 times, and she still says she was robbed?
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/15/21 12:50 PM

2016 was disputed HEAVILY from the Democratic party.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/15/21 12:58 PM

Was it? Cant' recall any court cases about it. Hillary conceded that night. Can't recall anyone saying the vote counts were wrong, protesting the vote counts or trying to run trump off the road like they did biden. Mueller was a republican doing his thing.

Sucks for anyone to win popular vote but lose the electoral college, but that is it's own discussion.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/15/21 01:00 PM

Still didn't answer my question anyway. If the Dems did anything like the audit in GA the repubs would reject it and be on 24/7 coverage about the radical left abandoning democracy, we all know this is true.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/15/21 01:22 PM

Anyway, wasn't really my point to get into a "who is worse" competition, that would get into research and back and forth I really don't have the time for. Just felt like we had some common ground there for a minute.

While I am thinking back a bit, I was certain Trump would beat hillary, should have put money on it back then. Hillary was unlikeable af and people were familiar with Trump. Didn't know what kind of job he would do. He started to lose me when he took Pence on, never been big on social conservative Christians politicians. Guess everyone has their priorities. What do you like about Trump or the republicans in general? Guns? Tax cuts?

A while back in one of these discussions someone said they never hear anything positive about Biden from his supporters, just negatives about Trump. Have thought about that a lot, and always find it interesting hearing positives from either side.

On trumps side I feel noone is all bad. I think he did the right thing getting us out of the TPP for example.
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/16/21 03:55 AM

Originally Posted By: GunnerJordan
2016 was disputed HEAVILY from the Democratic party.


But not legally challenged
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/16/21 08:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Migrantworkers
Originally Posted By: GunnerJordan
2016 was disputed HEAVILY from the Democratic party.


But not legally challenged


Likely due to a lack of evidence. If there was evidence, it would have been brought forward to the courts.

Hillary for all porpoises in tents, was slated to win the election. Polling(lol) had her winning, as did every one of her media supporters.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/17/21 12:01 PM

https://news.northeastern.edu/2016/12/08...hat-comes-next/
The Green party initiated it in 3 states and the Clinton campaign jumped on the wagon.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us/politics/democrats-voter-rights-lawsuit-hillary-clinton.html
She certaily joined in the fight to change existing voting laws....just in time for federal elections.


We can agree they all suck and dont really care about us. Politics is an ego driven enterprise.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/17/21 12:12 PM

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

This article shows a collusion at every level to change the public perception of Trump. I might personally concede that I am not sold on a full on election steal......but I feel strongly that a MASSIVE campaign was orchestrated at many levels to enfluence and guide the direction of this election. Globalism works best with Biden at the helm cowtowing to everyone.
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/17/21 12:25 PM

The real steal was the DNC robbing Bernie of the nomination again
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/18/21 05:51 AM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
The real steal was the DNC robbing Bernie of the nomination again


Honest question, as I agree with you.

By what methods do you feel the DNC stole the nomination from Bernie?
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/18/21 06:46 AM

I agree Bernie was screwed. Kamala was chosen as a diversity pick for Biden. Even the DNC knew she was woefully underqualified....I mean she did only receive 3% of the DNC vote, which means even democrats didnt want to elect her. Yet here we are, the globalist push continues.
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/18/21 06:30 PM

SH - i'm in iowa, and Pete's caucus "win" was suspect as fuck. And it seems pretty obvious when Biden was in 4th i think after the first few primaries and every other candidate dropped out and supported him (including others ahead of him.) 2016 same thing. DNC would rather lose than win with a progressive candidate.

please don't let my dislike of the DNC make you think I agree with all you reactionary fucks wink
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/01/21 01:17 PM

Who shot Ashli Babbit...
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/04/21 12:42 PM

Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/05/21 07:40 PM

mig is like q, you gotta decipher what he says but man is he on to something...
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/08/21 04:53 PM

Stopped posting in here, because, I've yet to receive any acknowledgements that I've been right
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/09/21 05:23 AM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
mig is like q, you gotta decipher what he says but man is he on to something...



Haha

I must have made the mistake of using proper punctuation


As to Q

In August we will see that a wet bird never flies at night and the true king will sleep on his own pillow
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/09/21 11:18 AM

Its coming...any day now...or the 4th of July after next...or Jan 6 2035...or...
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/10/21 07:05 PM

Naw, typical not to admit being wrong.

How many of the world leaders who stood up against the shots and masks have been assassinated?

I'll wait
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/12/21 11:25 AM

Naw

We are discussing Q
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/12/21 06:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Migrantworkers
Naw

We are discussing Q


Ah, Trumps social media arm at work.
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/17/21 09:12 AM

Article form 2007

For months, nearly everyone involved thought the medical center had had a huge whooping cough outbreak, with extensive ramifications.
Nearly 1,000 health care workers at the hospital in Lebanon, N.H., were given a preliminary test and
furloughed from work until their results were in; 142 people, including Dr. Herndon,
were told they appeared to have the disease; and thousands were given antibiotics and a
vaccine for protection. Hospital beds were taken out of commission, including some in intensive care.

Then, about eight months later, health care workers were dumbfounded to receive an
e-mail message from the hospital administration informing them that the whole thing was a false alarm.

Not a single case of whooping cough was confirmed with the definitive test, growing the
bacterium, Bordetella pertussis, in the laboratory. Instead, it appears the health care workers probably were afflicted with ordinary respiratory diseases like the common cold.

Now, as they look back on the episode, epidemiologists and infectious disease specialists say
the problem was that they placed too much faith in a quick and highly sensitive molecular
test that led them astray (the PCR)


https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/20/21 08:15 AM

HBO Documentary Kill Chain............worth a watch.
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/21/21 12:11 PM

Originally Posted By: GunnerJordan
HBO Documentary Kill Chain............worth a watch.



Crime of the century may be better
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/22/21 06:00 AM

Accountability doesnt exist. Personal, corporate, or medical. Pharma pushes scrip on Doctor for kickback, Doctor pushes scrip on patient, patient blindly takes scrip for every ailment, patient becomes addicted to the feeling, cycle continues.
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/22/21 04:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Migrantworkers
Originally Posted By: GunnerJordan
HBO Documentary Kill Chain............worth a watch.



Crime of the century may be better


I havent had the chance to watch either docu's but they both tickle my fancy.

From a quick glance of the plot and the individuals involved in the Crime of the Century; do you not find it odd at all that there is ZERO focus on Perdue Pharma or the Sackler Family?

The ones who are claiming bankruptcy just so they dont have to pay out? Why would the documentary not cover the most salacious part of the Opiod Crisis? Anyone?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 08/27/21 10:35 PM

Are you all still saying "Trust the Science", since all the Science is backing up that I've been right or naw?
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 08/27/21 10:52 PM

this one for you trite:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-audit-maricopa-county-delayed-covid-19-infections/
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 08/28/21 09:25 PM

That made me laugh when they announced it lol. That is no longer the reason for the delay.


https://news.yahoo.com/arizona-ag-threatens-maricopa-county-150032625.html


What happened there?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/18/21 02:21 PM

Take it you all watched the FDA vaccine and Related biological products advisory committee meeting yesterday
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/18/21 03:59 PM

i did not. worth the 8 hour watch? any news on booster vaccines and vaccines for those under 12?

what were your takeaways from it? please include timestamp so i can see what you mean
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/19/21 11:21 PM

Dr Malone posted some very troubling news. The government of Israel and Pfizer apparently struck a deal where AE's would not be made available to the public for ten years. This should alarm everybody, as to why, the most vaccination nation in the world would have a deal with the company administering the shots, if true. That's dirty, scary and everyone should be brought to full speed on that.

Drink...some crazy things said around the five hour mark. I've listened to a good 30-40 minutes while we were in SB and I was talking about it. The Dr's kept citing Israel as a reason to not have boosters approved anywhere.
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/20/21 06:03 AM

I've watched it several times in parts. Natural immunity is the way to go guys, sorry. Be healthy and under the age of 80 and you have a 99.5% survivabilty rate.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/20/21 08:01 AM

Originally Posted By: GunnerJordan
I've watched it several times in parts. Natural immunity is the way to go guys, sorry. Be healthy and under the age of 80 and you have a 99.5% survivabilty rate.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33988001/ small price to pay to avoid a vax I guess. Good luck w the penis.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/20/21 01:26 PM

Wow. NIH and Biden Administration expected to ignored the FDA vote of 13-2 for No on the boosters. Wow....ignoring all the Dr's who stated how horrible it is going in Israel...wow....not shocked or surprised if reports end up being true.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/20/21 03:17 PM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Originally Posted By: GunnerJordan
I've watched it several times in parts. Natural immunity is the way to go guys, sorry. Be healthy and under the age of 80 and you have a 99.5% survivabilty rate.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33988001/ small price to pay to avoid a vax I guess. Good luck w the penis.



Fear based response. Impotence is a known side effect of the shots too.


Natural immunity shown to be 6X-13X superior.

Bill Gates has announced they have MRNA bases in India and are ready for the next pandemic...they are also looking to inject vaccines into food...this while knowing herd immunity is impossible with the vaccine....as mentioned during the FDA hearing...no lol it is real fucked up and it is about time all of us stop believing the media and the "experts" that are controlling a narrative and apply some critical thinking and separate this from perviously held notions, beliefs, ideologies.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/20/21 03:57 PM

Source on immunity stats?

How is research an emotional response? In the age where sources are questioned peer reviewed science remains king for it in the quest for truth. It's the best we have. Our understanding of the long term impacts of mrna vaccines exceeds our understanding of long term impacts of covid itself by scientific concensus.

Here is a much bigger meta analysis. incorporating over 18,000 papers, indicat6ing long term covid symptoms present in 80% of infections.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95565-8


Their most common were fatigue, headaches and hair loss, so you could get all th plus the limp dick. Thus in rejecting perceived cuckery one becomes a cuck themselves. No thanks.

But I'm likely out, this sort of thing takes too long to type and minds don't change. A battle with no end. I wish you health and happiness, but remained puzzled why you sell your medical decision to others without sources beyond opinion.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/20/21 04:44 PM

I literally mentioned the latest FDA open meeting where you actually can listen to actual DR's present information. The conclusion is everything has been rushed and the rollout was far too soon. Despite this, reports the FDA vote will be ignored have been surfacing. No sense in telling me the frontline Dr's who are going against the narrative are wrong or the leading vaccination country is also the leading covid cases...this is not abstract nor opinion. Real time analysis seems to conclude it as an impossibility for herd immunity through the shots and they should be stopped immediately. But, I just trust the Science and professionals who deal with this every day and not the industrial complex that profits from you getting sick.
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/20/21 06:12 PM

how about swollen testicles?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/20/21 11:39 PM

Deaths are up 251% this year compared to last. Not sure how you want to be right so bad, instead of look at actual facts and realizing you are defending your enemy. Boggles the mind tbh.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/21/21 07:42 AM

Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/21/21 07:42 AM

Political stuff might be impacting people sticking around when it hits the SB. Im not looking to bitch or censor people, but it may help with game growth to try and target this thread on those sorts of discussions.


[x] BlimBlapZing: Pretty quiet in the sb outside of political bullshit. Is that just activity or is it chasing people away? Have seen other servers devolve into just political talk among those willing to argue, maybe keeping it to thread is still a good idea
[x] Matty: Political shit should be kept to that thread tho, people dont wanna see all this shit, read enough about it on every other site, surely you dont want it ruining your playing experience on here too
[x] Matty: I say political but I think its just all the covid talk that should be limited to thread, I think thats the real shit news no one wants to see
[x] BlimBlapZing: Yeah I kind of felt that way about SB here, sometimes you just wanna relax and play mmarmy. Stopped bitching about it as sb moving could be good but seen a lot of faces show briefly and dip out with that shit in the sb
Posted by: GunnerJordan

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/21/21 02:22 PM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Originally Posted By: GunnerJordan
I've watched it several times in parts. Natural immunity is the way to go guys, sorry. Be healthy and under the age of 80 and you have a 99.5% survivabilty rate.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33988001/ small price to pay to avoid a vax I guess. Good luck w the penis.


Tell us you know little about viral spread without telling us you know little about viral spread.....
Sympotomatic COVID 19 is still ENTIRELY plausible and possible in vaccinated humans. Immune response to viral load comes via the T and B cell reaction to a foreign pathogen. Vaccines potentially give the immune reponse headstart before viral load becomes uncontrollable. Natural sympotmatic infection and recovery is and always will be how humand survive and move past any virus. How the hell do you think the species has survived for this long?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/22/21 01:30 AM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Political stuff might be impacting people sticking around when it hits the SB. Im not looking to bitch or censor people, but it may help with game growth to try and target this thread on those sorts of discussions.


[x] BlimBlapZing: Pretty quiet in the sb outside of political bullshit. Is that just activity or is it chasing people away? Have seen other servers devolve into just political talk among those willing to argue, maybe keeping it to thread is still a good idea
[x] Matty: Political shit should be kept to that thread tho, people dont wanna see all this shit, read enough about it on every other site, surely you dont want it ruining your playing experience on here too
[x] Matty: I say political but I think its just all the covid talk that should be limited to thread, I think thats the real shit news no one wants to see
[x] BlimBlapZing: Yeah I kind of felt that way about SB here, sometimes you just wanna relax and play mmarmy. Stopped bitching about it as sb moving could be good but seen a lot of faces show briefly and dip out with that shit in the sb



IDGAF about this conversation. Matty was calling me crazy and is very quiet. Was laughing about the Chips and Bill Gates involvement. Yea, now that there are concentration camps, vaccine passports, microchips openly talked about, I get it. Calling someone else crazy and then seeing all of this happen is a bit much.

Funny how these crazy things keep happening and instead of applying critical thinking to it, the intellectually lazy route of calling things conspiracy is flavor of choice and spreading propped up propaganda from the marketing budget of tyrannical, evil people. You see it everywhere, because, there is huge marketing money behind it and people who see through the bullshit are attempting to get it through your head, the Pharmaceutical industry hates you, while you pledge your allegiance to it.

I also thought it was funny that the fact more people are dying since the vaccines and you keep advocating for it, super weird, super, duper weird. Can you explain that? Anybody, literally anybody. More vaccines equal more deaths, but, we all should get them, as, they make us all more safe? What fucking logic is that dumb shit?

If you can logically explain the next several things, I will never discuss this in the SB or in this thread:

Why are deaths increasing since the vaccines, if the vaccines are meant to lessen symptoms and lower chance of dying?

What medications are being administered to those "Dying from Covid" while hospitalized, compared to what medications are not being administered? (I know you know this one)

How did tens of thousands of Haitians end up on the border of Mexico/Texas?

Remdesivir is being blamed for various Covid Deaths and many medical professionals have stated this approved treatment kills and Dr's are willingly giving it to patients for kickback, what are you thoughts?

How come the death tolls from Covid have been walked back, but, you are sticking with the narrative of whatever statistics these manipulated numbers are telling you?

How come you ignore the fact, that the admission of "Those who had a positive Covid test, are marked as a Covid Death, even if they died from something else" clearly inflate the numbers?

How come, car accidents and gun shot victims were marked as Covid Deaths and you actually believe the statistics?

How come various medical facilities quietly accounted and stated they inflated Deaths and you ignore them?

Why were and are Hospitals being incentivized to diagnose Covid? Do you not see a conflict of true diagnoses?

PCR tests cannot diagnose Covid, so, why are you accepting a diagnoses from a PCR test?

Why are you ignoring that the inventor of the PCR test, stated that the PCR should not be used to diagnose anybody?

Why are you ignoring the CDC announced PCR tests actually cannot detect Covid?

Why has there never been proof of the isolation of the virus, outside of who they tell you did it, but, there is a one million dollar bounty for proof of isolation that is still available to any of these "small independent labs" who they keep telling us have done such?

If Ivermectin is so bad, why did the NIH acknowledge how great it was in 2015 and why is the Fed Gov regulating distribution? (If you tell me bullshit like a shortage, I will laugh)


Why were and are Hospitals being paid to place people on ventilators, when they have proven to be ineffective?

Why are Dr's, Pharmacy's, Hospitals being given kickback money to prescribe medications and Vaccines if it was about health?

Why do vaccine manufacturers also make drugs for the AE's the vaccines cause?

How do you feel about Australia and their approach?

How do you feel about Sweden and their approach?

How do you feel about the various professionals, who have come out and stated Ivermectin is a miracle drug and being proven such, as high levels in various countries and being bashed in America?

You feel there is wide scale collusion or you think they actually want what's best for you?

At what point does complying actually give you your life back?

How come Israel has the highest vaccination rate per capita, of any country and also leads the world in Covid cases, if the unvaccinated are the threat?

How come Bill Gates has a chip and has the patent for it? (Thought this was conspiracy theory)

How come Bill Gates owns so much farm land?

Why are they trying to put vaccines inside of plants?

How come Bill Gates has MrNA labs through INDIA and is ready for the next PANDEMIC?

How come they announce the return of a Polio like disease months ago?

How come the the Chicago Mayor is openly calling for people to be removed from their home and moved for not complying with the New World Order?

How come the President of China has also mentioned the New World Order?

How come various Australian officials have openly mentioned the New World Order?

Are all these Politicians from various countries conspiracy theorists or they know something you won't simply admit to?

Are all the Dr's who yelled at the FDA during the last hearing anti-Science and not Professionals I should trust?

Should I not trust the various epidemiologist and virologists who predicted the vaccines would lead to variants and more outbreaks or have changed their stance on the vaccine being good to no longer being good or is that Science ignored?

I've got more, doubt these will be taken seriously, because, well, there is no logical explanation for these things that benefit the greater good.

Sorry, the bad guys are in control and the more we say "Yes" the more they will take.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/22/21 01:32 AM

Bro, I'm fighting to actually save y'all and I am being treated like I am making billions by giving you shots that will have you dependent for the rest of your lives. Crazy to me. These mothafuckas don't know you, don't respect you, don't care if you died, meanwhile, me on the other hand would be extremely saddened and heart broken. There's a reason those with the MOST INTEL ON THE VACCINES DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE THEM. IT'S RIGHT IN YOUR FACES. SMH.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/22/21 03:04 AM

WWWWHHHHHOOOOOOAAAAAA Y'all better read these tweets, before, twitter deems this truth too harmful for the public to read


https://twitter.com/R_H_Ebright

I would also like to add the collusion Between the US, China, and the Brits to create, fund, and distribute what shut the world down, should unify us, but, I fear you indoctrinated folks will summon of the spin to defend and continually do so, against your better well being...also...how about those concentration camps in Washington and the immigrants not having to get any shots, because, they won't be here too long...shit's a joke at this point


Thankful for FOIA, sadly, the only one's who will pay attention to this information are those of us who know they are full of shit
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/22/21 03:05 AM

Lol im quiet cos a) im not playing the game atm, b) I hear enough about Covid that I dont want to go places and see more about it, and tbh its one of the reasons I did stop playing, its alright to talk about it sometimes but then you get youre own thread made to keep it so people dont have to read it, and then thats still not enough to keep this shit out the sb, people have to read and hear about it all day everyday, you dont wanna then come onto a game which is your release and all you see is more about it, not good for mental health to get this involved in it, no matter what you believe and most people I know are bored of hearing about it and mute anything to do with it on social media, its all good having opinions on it, but trite youre obsessed and cant put it down to caring about others, its a real obsession and cant be good for you to be so invested in something you cant have any impact on, others have their opinions in this thread, you have an obsessive agenda, correct me if im wrong

Also the obvious bating of guys isnt cool, especially when you push this be kind thing and positive thinking stuff, that shit isnt needed over something so negative already
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/22/21 05:47 AM

I could do a book report and dispute most of the stuff above, but frankly don't have the time. If you listen to right wing news, you'll agree with Trite on a lot. If you listen to left news, you'll be certain he's wrong.

Vax stuff is a medical decision. People will do what they want. Probably best for them to ask their Dr about it. Why you trying to get people to ignore their dr and follow your advice trite? I think they'll be safe enough following their doc, and if they aren't then we're all fucked anyway including you. You got an alternative? Acupuncture? Faith healing?

I'm with Matty, I'm out of the thread, I would rather relate to the people here about what I have in common with them than what I don't. If political shit continues to hit the Sb I'm likely out of the game/forum too. I don't come here to play that game, get flooded with it everywhere else.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/22/21 08:31 AM

Because I don't like when my questions are ignored I will answer all yours one last time. here you go. After this I'm likely done here, and I"m done with mmarmy if this shit keeps going through the SB -

Originally Posted By: GunnerJordan
Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Originally Posted By: GunnerJordan
I've watched it several times in parts. Natural immunity is the way to go guys, sorry. Be healthy and under the age of 80 and you have a 99.5% survivabilty rate.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33988001/ small price to pay to avoid a vax I guess. Good luck w the penis.


Tell us you know little about viral spread without telling us you know little about viral spread.....
Sympotomatic COVID 19 is still ENTIRELY plausible and possible in vaccinated humans. Immune response to viral load comes via the T and B cell reaction to a foreign pathogen. Vaccines potentially give the immune reponse headstart before viral load becomes uncontrollable. Natural sympotmatic infection and recovery is and always will be how humand survive and move past any virus. How the hell do you think the species has survived for this long?




Yes symptomatic infection is possible in vaccinated individuals. However, initial research indicates significant reduction in infections and symptomatic results among vaccinated individuals. So yes, vaccination does make it more likely your penis will keep working,

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2779854
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/22/21 08:32 AM

Re: Trites questions -

Why are deaths increasing since the vaccines, if the vaccines are meant to lessen symptoms and lower chance of dying? - More contagious variants emerging due to covid spread primarily.

What medications are being administered to those "Dying from Covid" while hospitalized, compared to what medications are not being administered? (I know you know this one) - Monitoring oxygen levels, maintaining oygen. Some patients need a nasal cannula, other patietns require an oxygen mask. IV fluids to support heart funciton if patient's expirenceing heart trouble. IV nutrients as needed. Antiviral medications, anti-inflammatory medications and immune system modulators, including remdesivir, glucocorticoids and tocilizumab.

How did tens of thousands of Haitians end up on the border of Mexico/Texas? Articles seem to indicate they heard of an easy way to cross. Who fucking cares? Wtf does it have to do with anything? I doubt I'll see any making their way as far north as TN. Why do you care?


Remdesivir is being blamed for various Covid Deaths and many medical professionals have stated this approved treatment kills and Dr's are willingly giving it to patients for kickback, what are you thoughts? Remdesivir has been approed by the FDA for treatment of covid. However later data suggests it has no impact on survival, figures in study were even for those given the drug compared with those not. This study did find positive impact from Rmdesivir -
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab698/6352176


How come the death tolls from Covid have been walked back, but, you are sticking with the narrative of whatever statistics these manipulated numbers are telling you? Who walked back death tolls? Haven't heard of this, sounds like right wing bullshit. Update - Appears this narrative has been driven by right wing pundit twitter with nothing behind it.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/cdc-hasnt-reduced-covid-19-death-toll/

How come you ignore the fact, that the admission of "Those who had a positive Covid test, are marked as a Covid Death, even if they died from something else" clearly inflate the numbers? I don't believe deaths are inflated. I can speak to this, I have 20 years working with hospital software. Procedures are taxed differently based on cause, a hospital artificially inflating covid numbers would cause the to get raped at the first medical audit a hospital faced. There have been audits since covid started and this has not been found.

How come, car accidents and gun shot victims were marked as Covid Deaths and you actually believe the statistics? Again I don't believe this has happened, see taxed procedures above.

How come various medical facilities quietly accounted and stated they inflated Deaths and you ignore them? Once again didn't happen


Why were and are Hospitals being incentivized to diagnose Covid? Do you not see a conflict of true diagnoses? Hospitals receive tax incentives for certain diagnosis to ensure funding for treatment of those diagnosis. If they lie about this, the medical audit system in the US is robust, would result in penalties severe enough that honesty is the policy followed.

PCR tests cannot diagnose Covid, so, why are you accepting a diagnoses from a PCR test? Who is accepting a diagnosis from PCR tests? Reuters, which is consistently rated in bias studies as nuetral, indicates this is false, the CDC report was misrepresented - https://www.reuters.com/article/factchec...d-idUSL1N2P42U5

Why are you ignoring that the inventor of the PCR test, stated that the PCR should not be used to diagnose anybody? See last question

Why are you ignoring the CDC announced PCR tests actually cannot detect Covid? See last question

Why has there never been proof of the isolation of the virus, outside of who they tell you did it, but, there is a one million dollar bounty for proof of isolation that is still available to any of these "small independent labs" who they keep telling us have done such? This is a falsehood pushed by facebook narratives, literally fake news - https://www.reuters.com/article/factchec...d-idUSL1N2LS27P


If Ivermectin is so bad, why did the NIH acknowledge how great it was in 2015 and why is the Fed Gov regulating distribution? (If you tell me bullshit like a shortage, I will laugh) The FDA who you said before was a good source says you should not use it. https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-u...revent-covid-19

Why were and are Hospitals being paid to place people on ventilators, when they have proven to be ineffective? They haven't been proved ineffective unless you've got a source on that. They do increase blood oxygen but can have side effects.

Why are Dr's, Pharmacy's, Hospitals being given kickback money to prescribe medications and Vaccines if it was about health? This is a meme spread on facebook to discourage people from getting vaxxed. This is how small practices secure funding for procedures. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...e-idUSKBN28D39G

Why do vaccine manufacturers also make drugs for the AE's the vaccines cause? Because medical research companies tend to be large and work on multiple products.

How do you feel about Australia and their approach? Seems too heavy handed to me, but I don't live in Australia. Maybe covid infected kangaroos and giant spiders are terrifying

How do you feel about Sweden and their approach? Looks like sweden didn't do lockdowns and has had more deaths than their neighbors. Imagine that. https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(20)32750-1/fulltext

How do you feel about the various professionals, who have come out and stated Ivermectin is a miracle drug and being proven such, as high levels in various countries and being bashed in America? There are kooks who will advocate anything. FDA disagrees with them and you told us you care about what the FDA says.

You feel there is wide scale collusion or you think they actually want what's best for you? Covid is far too large for widespread collusion. Too many parties with different interests agreeing on the basic facts.

At what point does complying actually give you your life back? When cases are reduced to the level bird flu is at today most likely. Pandemics end, just takes a few years.

How come Israel has the highest vaccination rate per capita, of any country and also leads the world in Covid cases, if the unvaccinated are the threat? Their vaccination rate is only slightly higher than the US, variants are slipping through. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628471/highly-vaccinated-israel-is-seeing-a-dramatic-surge-in-new-covid-cases-heres-why\

How come Bill Gates has a chip and has the patent for it? (Thought this was conspiracy theory)
This is one of the more insane sounding covid theories. There is not a micorochip that can be implemented through vaccination. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...a-idUSKBN28E286

How come Bill Gates owns so much farm land? Wtf does this have to do with anything? Who cares?

Why are they trying to put vaccines inside of plants? research is always ongoing on alternate delivery methods for medications. I recall research being done to try and get mosquitos to innoculate against malaria a while back.

How come Bill Gates has MrNA labs through INDIA and is ready for the next PANDEMIC? Seems like a good idea to have labs and be ready. Why not?

How come they announce the return of a Polio like disease months ago? Looks like due to virus coming out through feces and entering the water supply and poor sanitation in 3rd world countries. Still not much of a thing in the us for now. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsod...-until-it-wasnt

'How come the the Chicago Mayor is openly calling for people to be removed from their home and moved for not complying with the New World Order? Couldn't find anything about this, source?

How come the President of China has also mentioned the New World Order? Sounds like political jargon for some new initiative. Chinas current president has planned well on some fronts and presents tough competition in certain areas.

How come various Australian officials have openly mentioned the New World Order? This is a right wing reaction to their covid lockdowns. Is what it is, will always be those who disagree with policy. Why do you care?

Are all these Politicians from various countries conspiracy theorists or they know something you won't simply admit to? In regards to what? Politicians mentioning new world order? Doesn't have a lot of meaning to me, who cares?

Are all the Dr's who yelled at the FDA during the last hearing anti-Science and not Professionals I should trust? Vast concensus among providers is that covid is a thing and vaccines are effective. YOu can find kooks to advocate anything. F ollow numbers, not video of angry people confirming your suspicions.

Should I not trust the various epidemiologist and virologists who predicted the vaccines would lead to variants and more outbreaks or have changed their stance on the vaccine being good to no longer being good or is that Science ignored? This is a narrative driven by social media, not science. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/no-vaccines-do-not-cause-new-sar







Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/24/21 07:21 PM

trite, who won that arizona audit? saw your other comments but you didn't mention who won.
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/24/21 07:30 PM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Re: Trites questions -

Why are deaths increasing since the vaccines, if the vaccines are meant to lessen symptoms and lower chance of dying? - More contagious variants emerging due to covid spread primarily.

What medications are being administered to those "Dying from Covid" while hospitalized, compared to what medications are not being administered? (I know you know this one) - Monitoring oxygen levels, maintaining oygen. Some patients need a nasal cannula, other patietns require an oxygen mask. IV fluids to support heart funciton if patient's expirenceing heart trouble. IV nutrients as needed. Antiviral medications, anti-inflammatory medications and immune system modulators, including remdesivir, glucocorticoids and tocilizumab.

How did tens of thousands of Haitians end up on the border of Mexico/Texas? Articles seem to indicate they heard of an easy way to cross. Who fucking cares? Wtf does it have to do with anything? I doubt I'll see any making their way as far north as TN. Why do you care?


Remdesivir is being blamed for various Covid Deaths and many medical professionals have stated this approved treatment kills and Dr's are willingly giving it to patients for kickback, what are you thoughts? Remdesivir has been approed by the FDA for treatment of covid. However later data suggests it has no impact on survival, figures in study were even for those given the drug compared with those not. This study did find positive impact from Rmdesivir -
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab698/6352176


How come the death tolls from Covid have been walked back, but, you are sticking with the narrative of whatever statistics these manipulated numbers are telling you? Who walked back death tolls? Haven't heard of this, sounds like right wing bullshit. Update - Appears this narrative has been driven by right wing pundit twitter with nothing behind it.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/cdc-hasnt-reduced-covid-19-death-toll/

How come you ignore the fact, that the admission of "Those who had a positive Covid test, are marked as a Covid Death, even if they died from something else" clearly inflate the numbers? I don't believe deaths are inflated. I can speak to this, I have 20 years working with hospital software. Procedures are taxed differently based on cause, a hospital artificially inflating covid numbers would cause the to get raped at the first medical audit a hospital faced. There have been audits since covid started and this has not been found.

How come, car accidents and gun shot victims were marked as Covid Deaths and you actually believe the statistics? Again I don't believe this has happened, see taxed procedures above.

How come various medical facilities quietly accounted and stated they inflated Deaths and you ignore them? Once again didn't happen


Why were and are Hospitals being incentivized to diagnose Covid? Do you not see a conflict of true diagnoses? Hospitals receive tax incentives for certain diagnosis to ensure funding for treatment of those diagnosis. If they lie about this, the medical audit system in the US is robust, would result in penalties severe enough that honesty is the policy followed.

PCR tests cannot diagnose Covid, so, why are you accepting a diagnoses from a PCR test? Who is accepting a diagnosis from PCR tests? Reuters, which is consistently rated in bias studies as nuetral, indicates this is false, the CDC report was misrepresented - https://www.reuters.com/article/factchec...d-idUSL1N2P42U5

Why are you ignoring that the inventor of the PCR test, stated that the PCR should not be used to diagnose anybody? See last question

Why are you ignoring the CDC announced PCR tests actually cannot detect Covid? See last question

Why has there never been proof of the isolation of the virus, outside of who they tell you did it, but, there is a one million dollar bounty for proof of isolation that is still available to any of these "small independent labs" who they keep telling us have done such? This is a falsehood pushed by facebook narratives, literally fake news - https://www.reuters.com/article/factchec...d-idUSL1N2LS27P


If Ivermectin is so bad, why did the NIH acknowledge how great it was in 2015 and why is the Fed Gov regulating distribution? (If you tell me bullshit like a shortage, I will laugh) The FDA who you said before was a good source says you should not use it. https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-u...revent-covid-19

Why were and are Hospitals being paid to place people on ventilators, when they have proven to be ineffective? They haven't been proved ineffective unless you've got a source on that. They do increase blood oxygen but can have side effects.

Why are Dr's, Pharmacy's, Hospitals being given kickback money to prescribe medications and Vaccines if it was about health? This is a meme spread on facebook to discourage people from getting vaxxed. This is how small practices secure funding for procedures. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...e-idUSKBN28D39G

Why do vaccine manufacturers also make drugs for the AE's the vaccines cause? Because medical research companies tend to be large and work on multiple products.

How do you feel about Australia and their approach? Seems too heavy handed to me, but I don't live in Australia. Maybe covid infected kangaroos and giant spiders are terrifying

How do you feel about Sweden and their approach? Looks like sweden didn't do lockdowns and has had more deaths than their neighbors. Imagine that. https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(20)32750-1/fulltext

How do you feel about the various professionals, who have come out and stated Ivermectin is a miracle drug and being proven such, as high levels in various countries and being bashed in America? There are kooks who will advocate anything. FDA disagrees with them and you told us you care about what the FDA says.

You feel there is wide scale collusion or you think they actually want what's best for you? Covid is far too large for widespread collusion. Too many parties with different interests agreeing on the basic facts.

At what point does complying actually give you your life back? When cases are reduced to the level bird flu is at today most likely. Pandemics end, just takes a few years.

How come Israel has the highest vaccination rate per capita, of any country and also leads the world in Covid cases, if the unvaccinated are the threat? Their vaccination rate is only slightly higher than the US, variants are slipping through. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628471/highly-vaccinated-israel-is-seeing-a-dramatic-surge-in-new-covid-cases-heres-why\

How come Bill Gates has a chip and has the patent for it? (Thought this was conspiracy theory)
This is one of the more insane sounding covid theories. There is not a micorochip that can be implemented through vaccination. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...a-idUSKBN28E286

How come Bill Gates owns so much farm land? Wtf does this have to do with anything? Who cares?

Why are they trying to put vaccines inside of plants? research is always ongoing on alternate delivery methods for medications. I recall research being done to try and get mosquitos to innoculate against malaria a while back.

How come Bill Gates has MrNA labs through INDIA and is ready for the next PANDEMIC? Seems like a good idea to have labs and be ready. Why not?

How come they announce the return of a Polio like disease months ago? Looks like due to virus coming out through feces and entering the water supply and poor sanitation in 3rd world countries. Still not much of a thing in the us for now. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsod...-until-it-wasnt

'How come the the Chicago Mayor is openly calling for people to be removed from their home and moved for not complying with the New World Order? Couldn't find anything about this, source?

How come the President of China has also mentioned the New World Order? Sounds like political jargon for some new initiative. Chinas current president has planned well on some fronts and presents tough competition in certain areas.

How come various Australian officials have openly mentioned the New World Order? This is a right wing reaction to their covid lockdowns. Is what it is, will always be those who disagree with policy. Why do you care?

Are all these Politicians from various countries conspiracy theorists or they know something you won't simply admit to? In regards to what? Politicians mentioning new world order? Doesn't have a lot of meaning to me, who cares?

Are all the Dr's who yelled at the FDA during the last hearing anti-Science and not Professionals I should trust? Vast concensus among providers is that covid is a thing and vaccines are effective. YOu can find kooks to advocate anything. F ollow numbers, not video of angry people confirming your suspicions.

Should I not trust the various epidemiologist and virologists who predicted the vaccines would lead to variants and more outbreaks or have changed their stance on the vaccine being good to no longer being good or is that Science ignored? This is a narrative driven by social media, not science. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/no-vaccines-do-not-cause-new-sar










I love you in a platonic kind of way
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/24/21 07:31 PM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
trite, who won that arizona audit? saw your other comments but you didn't mention who won.



The only report that I saw a headline for indicated that the margin of victory grew
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/24/21 08:29 PM

need to hear it from him

Posted by: FoulAdministrator

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/25/21 02:35 PM

Have any of you fuckers ever experienced anything that'd be considered paranormal?
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/27/21 02:19 PM

not really. definitely nothing i couldn't chalk up to being intoxicated.
Posted by: Drifter

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/30/21 04:47 PM

I have had a few oddities happen throughout my life. "Shadow People" combined with paralysis when I was younger. Which I'm sure could have a logical explanation... but it was fuckin spooky. I've also had shit flying through the air as if someone chucked it at me. Just to name a couple.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/02/21 06:46 PM

Yea, I've had several experiences tbh
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/05/21 12:48 PM

How about scientists stating natural immunity is superior?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/05/21 02:24 PM

For the record. I am not Lib or Conser. If anyone takes offense to their party being shitty...it is what it is. I see one party looking to turn America into a dystopian ran country and it is not the one's who love their guns.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/05/21 02:30 PM

Thoughts on Australia?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/05/21 03:15 PM

Thoughts on parents protesting at school boards now being considered domestic terrorism?
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/05/21 07:51 PM

what were your supernatural experiences trite? this is what i'm most interested in

here's a guy from a school board near me: https://twitter.com/i/status/1440486539595632640
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/05/21 10:30 PM

Good. School boards are corrupt and are taking money to force shots and masks on students. They do need to be accountable and so does everyone else. They are sexualizing children and teaching racial divide. Some are even telling kids nanobots are good for them. You think those are good to teach children Drink? I know the Democratic party believes those are good ideals, do you individually?

Here is a video of a Dr, showing the impact on your immune system from the jab. Shows pre jab, post 1st and post 2nd. Guy must be some conspiracy theorists who needs to TRUST THE SCIENCE and TRUST THE PROFESIONALS.

Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/05/21 10:48 PM

He explains reasons for all the breakthrough "Cases" says DR's are not testing for this and the results resemble AIDS. Basically, what I heard a Scientist break down as "Reverse Aids" as that your Killer T Cells (which take out infected cells in your body) are being taken out of your immune system and leaving you vulnerable to other sicknesses. Crazy to see so many of you defend this shit. It's disgusting honestly. Heart Attacks and Cancer have increased since these shots and this video is literal proof why.

Any of your have immune panel checked after getting the shots? Request it and let me know what your Dr's say and how the results turn out. Also, can you get the blood clotting test, to, see if you have bloodclots?

We can speak about my supernatural experiences once five of you jabbed fellow brethren take the tests I mentioned, show conclusively impact your health.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/06/21 01:15 AM

Damn, hurts breaking this one


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.19.21262139v1.full

Look at this piece of shit resign after being outed about lying for funding the Wuhan Lab


https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shot...stitutes-health
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/06/21 08:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Trite
Good. School boards are corrupt and are taking money to force shots and masks on students. They do need to be accountable and so does everyone else. They are sexualizing children and teaching racial divide. Some are even telling kids nanobots are good for them. You think those are good to teach children Drink? I know the Democratic party believes those are good ideals, do you individually?

Here is a video of a Dr, showing the impact on your immune system from the jab. Shows pre jab, post 1st and post 2nd. Guy must be some conspiracy theorists who needs to TRUST THE SCIENCE and TRUST THE PROFESIONALS.






Video unavailable. You use a lot of appeals to emotions with nothing behind them. It's like listening to a Tucker Carlson monologue.

Lets break this down a little -
"School boards are corrupt and are taking money to force shots and masks on students." - source?

"They are sexualizing children and teaching racial divide. Some are even telling kids nanobots are good for them." - This is an appeal to emotion anyone can say and noone can get sued for. Who is sexualizing children? How are they sexutalizing children? How are they teaching the racial divide? What are they telling children about nanobots? Ultimately they could be good if some research projects like nanobot surgery work out. We don't know from what you've just said, but it sure sounds good if you are already angry at the education system for following CDC recs.

You think those are good to teach children Drink? I know the Democratic party believes those are good ideals, do you individually? "The democratic party believes those are good ideals." Once again no source or details provided but it sure sounds good if you already hate the democrats.

It's a little like saying "They hate black people and want to get rid of police brutality charges. They want to teach religion in schools and make it illegal for gay paople to get married again. The republican party believes these things, do you?" Sure some republicans believe that. Some democrats believe there are lots of genders. Some republicans believe we should nuke Iran. Someone in twitter will claim to be part of either party and advocate just about anything you can think of. But it will take some serious documentation to link that to the entire party line without being dishonest.

Generally only people with predisposed anger toward the subject fall into these sorts of steroityped anger-dopamine statement hits, the outrage machine. Not a healthy place to be, I still think a break from news beyond the basics for a month or so would do your mental health a massive amount of good.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/06/21 08:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Trite
He explains reasons for all the breakthrough "Cases" says DR's are not testing for this and the results resemble AIDS. Basically, what I heard a Scientist break down as "Reverse Aids" as that your Killer T Cells (which take out infected cells in your body) are being taken out of your immune system and leaving you vulnerable to other sicknesses. Crazy to see so many of you defend this shit. It's disgusting honestly. Heart Attacks and Cancer have increased since these shots and this video is literal proof why.

Any of your have immune panel checked after getting the shots? Request it and let me know what your Dr's say and how the results turn out. Also, can you get the blood clotting test, to, see if you have bloodclots?

We can speak about my supernatural experiences once five of you jabbed fellow brethren take the tests I mentioned, show conclusively impact your health.


My wife has had health problems for years and massive tests before and after the vaccination. No real changes in the vax time frame. Myself not really worth a trip to the dr unless soething is wrong. The rest the video is removed, and anyone can go on a video and claim anything, including that they are a dr. Will need a lot of investigation to determine if a video should be followed. Use some discretion in sources.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/06/21 08:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Trite
Damn, hurts breaking this one


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.19.21262139v1.full

Look at this piece of shit resign after being outed about lying for funding the Wuhan Lab


https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shot...stitutes-health


The links you posted here don't support any of your supppositions from what I can see. you posted an article about the head of NH resigning and warning we have to not politicize future pandemics. And you posted research indicating among variant infections only 9% are vaxxed.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/06/21 08:22 AM

And if you want more responses -

How about scientists stating natural immunity is superior? Sounds like bullshit. Source?

Thoughts on Australia?
I think they've had some good mma fighters coming up lately with guys like Whittaker and Volkanovsky.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/07/21 08:52 PM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
And if you want more responses -

How about scientists stating natural immunity is superior? Sounds like bullshit. Source?

Thoughts on Australia?
I think they've had some good mma fighters coming up lately with guys like Whittaker and Volkanovsky.




Lol. I've posted the FDA meeting with various Dr's stating natural immunity is better. You literally cannot be serious saying that
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/07/21 08:52 PM

Originally Posted By: BlimBlapZing
Originally Posted By: Trite
He explains reasons for all the breakthrough "Cases" says DR's are not testing for this and the results resemble AIDS. Basically, what I heard a Scientist break down as "Reverse Aids" as that your Killer T Cells (which take out infected cells in your body) are being taken out of your immune system and leaving you vulnerable to other sicknesses. Crazy to see so many of you defend this shit. It's disgusting honestly. Heart Attacks and Cancer have increased since these shots and this video is literal proof why.

Any of your have immune panel checked after getting the shots? Request it and let me know what your Dr's say and how the results turn out. Also, can you get the blood clotting test, to, see if you have bloodclots?

We can speak about my supernatural experiences once five of you jabbed fellow brethren take the tests I mentioned, show conclusively impact your health.


My wife has had health problems for years and massive tests before and after the vaccination. No real changes in the vax time frame. Myself not really worth a trip to the dr unless soething is wrong. The rest the video is removed, and anyone can go on a video and claim anything, including that they are a dr. Will need a lot of investigation to determine if a video should be followed. Use some discretion in sources.


You take the test from the video or not??
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/07/21 08:56 PM

Things up in 2021

Heart Attacks
Cancer
Hospitalizations
Covid Diagnoses
Covid contributed Deaths



Thought the shots work? Yea, seems like they work. Y'all take your AIDS test and tell that Dr they are wrong and your t cells are not lowering.


Ohh, and since we are on it


James from Project Veritas is offering 10,000 for any charity of choosing, if someone can PROE DECEPTIVE EDITING...looking like , based on their Shoutbox comments Blim and Drinks should be able to prove this pretty easy and get that money to those in need


Ohh yeah, how about that study that those shot up are carrying the variants more often than those not?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/07/21 08:57 PM

CNN running a ticker on Covid deaths still or naw?
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/07/21 09:43 PM

unvaccinated people are the ones dying for the most part, so not really getting your argument here.

look at the past history of project veritas. if you wanna be a mark for their grift that's on you.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/07/21 10:09 PM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
unvaccinated people are the ones dying for the most part, so not really getting your argument here.

look at the past history of project veritas. if you wanna be a mark for their grift that's on you.





Highly inaccurate and laughable tbh. Both statements.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/08/21 05:54 AM

I just commented here to keep the shit out of the SB. It's either that or leave the game and forum, and I debate leaving instead every time it happens. Feel like political shit in the SB will drive people away, especially covid shit. People burnt out on it, including me. Game may die anyway without an update, but for now I"m still getting fights with camps and enjoying things like Drinks beltfight thread.

FDA meeting I haven't watched, don't really have the time. Drs arguing with the FDAs findings is a thing but not sure it proves anything without data.

Heart attacks, cancer, etc being up who knows? Covid deaths being up been attributed to variants and quarantines ending mainly, people around each other in 2021 a hell of a lot more than they were last half of 2020.

Project veritas being bullshit, there are better people at video editing shit than me on the internet, be interesting to see what comes out of that. Drink is right though, they have a pretty deceptive history.

I'm just fucking tired man. Vaccine causes cancer? Who fucking knows, the water causes cancer where I"m from. People going to do what they want to do, I think going to your dr for advice is the best course of action. If that's still wrong, then we're pretty fucked anyway if the majority of Drs on the planet are giving incorrect advice about something.

Hope all goes well with you all. Hope by some miracle the game recovers but it may not. Hope the pandemic ends soon. Either way, some good mma coming up, enjoy those fights while they are going.
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/09/21 05:31 AM

Trite told me we will die 3 years after the vax so MMArmy only needs to run a couple more years tbh.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/09/21 11:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Olir
Trite told me we will die 3 years after the vax so MMArmy only needs to run a couple more years tbh.



Basically, hope I am wrong though. Unless they keep mixing placebos in the mix, which, you can argue depending on stance is wrong to do.



Y'all tell me how ADE treats you
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/09/21 08:36 PM

getting my booster here soon. does that move up the 3 year period?

also after 3 years rolls around are we going to keep pushing the date back a few months at a time to keep hope alive like trump's reinstatement?
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/10/21 02:48 AM

Yep if you hit that booster you reset your sentence to another 3 years; it works like committing a crime.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/10/21 04:28 AM

Naw man, hope I am wrong and good luck. Tell me how that has worked out for Israel
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/10/21 06:13 AM

Pretty well it seems.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/11/21 01:43 AM

Naw, not really Olir. Has not worked out well at all.

What is everyone's thoughts on the Southwest workers protesting mandates and the company and news lying about reason for delays and almost 2,000 cancelled flights, since, lot of y'all seem to think media tells you the truth? Telling you weather lol. They think you are stupid lol. The Pilots union filed against the company by the way lol.

Some other airlines did it earlier and mandates dropped, but, they buckled and went back to mandates. There are rumors there will be other airlines who will join in and possibly Amtrak and maybe other form of public transpiration.

Here's one for you smart pants: If there is no prevention of transmission, how is it beneficial for the community for you to inject yourself with the poison and where is there protection for the community if herd immunity is impossible through these injections? I'll wait for a logical and rational response (won't get one tho does not exist and you all seem to think those not injected with the poison are the one's getting sick and blah blah blah)

P.S. New study finds those injected are more likely to have variants and not those not injected, also, natural immunity shown to be effective against 23 strains of Covid.

Good day fellas.
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/11/21 10:21 AM

Naw, it has worked out pretty well all things considered.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/12/21 10:52 PM

Would like to hear your opinions on the boy in Virginia who wore skirts to rape girls in school bathrooms and the father who was arrested for standing up for his daughter, who was a victim of this...esp since I said these events would happen with these loopholes of people feeling like whatever gender they are...also, your feelings on the school district protecting the rapists???
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/13/21 08:59 AM

Thats fucked up! Reminds me of the church covering up all their kiddie fiddlers
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/13/21 09:06 AM

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7

Quote:
At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1). In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people. Notably, Israel with over 60% of their population fully vaccinated had the highest COVID-19 cases per 1 million people in the last 7 days. The lack of a meaningful association between percentage population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases is further exemplified, for instance, by comparison of Iceland and Portugal. Both countries have over 75% of their population fully vaccinated and have more COVID-19 cases per 1 million people than countries such as Vietnam and South Africa that have around 10% of their population fully vaccinated.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/13/21 08:33 PM

Love how they recategorize vaccinated as unvaccatinated to manipulate the numbers. Israel was over 85% and maybe even higher, until they shuffled the categories.
Posted by: tson

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/14/21 06:13 AM

Victoria, Australia is fkd... they staged some shit back in the day to take away our guns so we cant really do shit about this genocide
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/14/21 07:24 AM

Tson!!!!!
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/14/21 12:18 PM

And they have been trying to take guns away in America too. There is nothing good that comes from disarming the citizens. Sorry you are stuck in that hell hole. There are people here in America who are asking for MORE TYRANICAL LAWS
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/14/21 12:49 PM

The video of that Pfzier exec running from Project Veritas is hilarious. Must gave been their deceiving edited videos exposing her emails to other execs.

Blim and Drink...you got your 10K yet?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/14/21 12:52 PM

Brandon Goodwin out for season with Vaccine injury and NBA told him not to talk about it.
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/14/21 01:24 PM

Im sure they would weasel out of paying. You put trust in some interesting people.
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/14/21 01:25 PM

You like charlie kirk and ben shapiro too?
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/14/21 01:53 PM

Originally Posted By: SbrbnHstlr
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7

Quote:
At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1). In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people. Notably, Israel with over 60% of their population fully vaccinated had the highest COVID-19 cases per 1 million people in the last 7 days. The lack of a meaningful association between percentage population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases is further exemplified, for instance, by comparison of Iceland and Portugal. Both countries have over 75% of their population fully vaccinated and have more COVID-19 cases per 1 million people than countries such as Vietnam and South Africa that have around 10% of their population fully vaccinated.



This study shows it's a goood thing they have such high vaccination rates.
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/14/21 02:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Olir


This study shows it's a goood thing they have such high vaccination rates.


Could you please expand on this Olir.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/14/21 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
You like charlie kirk and ben shapiro too?




No strong opinion on Kirk and Shapiro is funny. Not really a fan and he is pushing the vaccine hard lol. Pretty sure PV would pay you if you had proof
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/15/21 06:53 AM

Buckle up friends.

Make sure you are supplementing/getting plenty of Vitamin C/D.

Worst Cold Ever - Propagation
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/19/21 03:46 PM

I said All Hail Gov De Santis and Blim assumed it was Covid related and got upset in the Shout box. Can we not say anything about Political figures without it being Covid related? I mean really, this is where we are at.


Any a who, Gov De Santis announced Florida will help alleviate the man made crisis that Biden's administration has placed on the country and has proven to be totally fraudulent.
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/19/21 04:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Trite
I said All Hail Gov De Santis and Blim assumed it was Covid related and got upset in the Shout box. Can we not say anything about Political figures without it being Covid related? I mean really, this is where we are at.


Any a who, Gov De Santis announced Florida will help alleviate the man made crisis that Biden's administration has placed on the country and has proven to be totally fraudulent.


Would the man made crisis not be covid related?

Societal division is close to an all time high, I can understand his position of keeping hot political topics out of the shoutbox.

Precisely why this topic exists.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/19/21 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By: SbrbnHstlr
Originally Posted By: Trite
I said All Hail Gov De Santis and Blim assumed it was Covid related and got upset in the Shout box. Can we not say anything about Political figures without it being Covid related? I mean really, this is where we are at.


Any a who, Gov De Santis announced Florida will help alleviate the man made crisis that Biden's administration has placed on the country and has proven to be totally fraudulent.


Would the man made crisis not be covid related?

Societal division is close to an all time high, I can understand his position of keeping hot political topics out of the shoutbox.

Precisely why this topic exists.



Are you claiming that the current White House Administrations admitted decision to let Americans go with less food and clothing, because, the vaccination rates are not high enough is man made and covid related?


Covid cases down 88% in Florida. DeSantis obviously actually CARES about Americans and has been made to be a main enemy of the Left for this reason. Even stated the ports will be open 24/7, while fighting against the US Treasury. Must be this bad Covid policy maker that I keep hearing about. Telling Floridians not to live in fear is bad policy...
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/19/21 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Trite



Are you claiming that the current White House Administrations admitted decision to let Americans go with less food and clothing, because, the vaccination rates are not high enough is man made and covid related?



I didn't claim anything?

I asked how you praising DeSantis was not Covid related.

Which you have clearly illustrated as praise for his political policies for undoing the man made crisis/covid related policies instituted by Biden and his administration.

Sounds covid related to me smile
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/19/21 08:38 PM

dude is horrible, covid and otherwise. future president i'd bet.
Posted by: tson

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/20/21 12:57 AM

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia is pretty fkd.... like I mentioned last time, they staged some bs to strip us of our guns awhile ago, so the people fear the government.

Our two major parties in government appear to have been taken over and are all voting on the same bs laws....digital id/covid passports and all.

We are the most locked down city in the world...Over 260days of hard lock down, no visitors, no shopping, only allowed to leave the house to go to the supermarkets (if its within 5km from your home) and we cant leave our house after 9pm.

There are cops everywhere beating down anyone not wearing a mask or signing into places with QR codes.. If they see us protesting they round us up shoot us with rubber bullets and tear gas.. You have 0 rights to do anything without taking the wax, not even allowed to work in any profession (which is the main reason people are getting it here) concentration camps getting built around the outskirts of the city (2 big ones that I know of) "for the next pandemic, whenever that will be" - Dan Andrews (our state premier) ... And they just banned politicians who are opposed to the mandatory wax from voting against the laws they are passing to keep this in place indefinitely, unless they get the wax that is...


The Sheep in this city are happy about the new "freedoms" we are being allowed this friday:
On Friday 22 October, in metropolitan Melbourne:
Reasons to leave home and curfew no longer in place.
10 people, including dependents, can visit a home each day.
15 people can gather outdoors.
Pubs, clubs and entertainment venues can open to 20 fully vaccinated people indoors and 50 fully vaccinated people outdoors.
Funerals and weddings allow for 20 fully vaccinated people indoors and 50 fully vaccinated outdoors.
Hairdressing and beauty salons to open for up to five fully vaccinated people at a time.

If people cant see this isnt about our health but its only about jabbing and striping our freedoms then I dont even know...
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/20/21 05:54 PM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
dude is horrible, covid and otherwise. future president i'd bet.



Yea, telling people not to be afraid of propaganda, making sure PROVEN treatments are available, sending help to the Texas boarder, bringing COVID cases down 88% in his state and opening the ports that are having "shortages" all seem like such a horrible Gov...please. Can you actually articulate this horrid opinion of yours? Lol Blanket Democratic Parroting not allowed, thanks Drink.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/20/21 06:06 PM

Originally Posted By: tson
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia is pretty fkd.... like I mentioned last time, they staged some bs to strip us of our guns awhile ago, so the people fear the government.

Our two major parties in government appear to have been taken over and are all voting on the same bs laws....digital id/covid passports and all.

We are the most locked down city in the world...Over 260days of hard lock down, no visitors, no shopping, only allowed to leave the house to go to the supermarkets (if its within 5km from your home) and we cant leave our house after 9pm.

There are cops everywhere beating down anyone not wearing a mask or signing into places with QR codes.. If they see us protesting they round us up shoot us with rubber bullets and tear gas.. You have 0 rights to do anything without taking the wax, not even allowed to work in any profession (which is the main reason people are getting it here) concentration camps getting built around the outskirts of the city (2 big ones that I know of) "for the next pandemic, whenever that will be" - Dan Andrews (our state premier) ... And they just banned politicians who are opposed to the mandatory wax from voting against the laws they are passing to keep this in place indefinitely, unless they get the wax that is...


The Sheep in this city are happy about the new "freedoms" we are being allowed this friday:
On Friday 22 October, in metropolitan Melbourne:
Reasons to leave home and curfew no longer in place.
10 people, including dependents, can visit a home each day.
15 people can gather outdoors.
Pubs, clubs and entertainment venues can open to 20 fully vaccinated people indoors and 50 fully vaccinated people outdoors.
Funerals and weddings allow for 20 fully vaccinated people indoors and 50 fully vaccinated outdoors.
Hairdressing and beauty salons to open for up to five fully vaccinated people at a time.

If people cant see this isnt about our health but its only about jabbing and striping our freedoms then I dont even know...


Sorry to hear that. It's nonsensical and have nothing to do with Health or Science. Blim, Drink, Migrant may tell you that you are a conspiracy theorists and we all need the shots, even though there is no stopping transmission and it is not a cure, thus, giving literally zero actual reason to get it, outside of the Democratic Party in America Fear Mongering and obvious payola to scare, scare, scare people. They will tell you only the unvaccinated are getting sick, even though everyone was unvaccinated last year and this year Deaths, sicknesses, hospitalizations are up everywhere, but, that can't be because of unproven shots, that would just make too much sense. Must be those still unvaccinated (makes zero sense, I know)

I've seen what the police are doing out there and have seen that most of them don't agree and are just "following orders" and harassing people for being outside and beating elderly people for being at the park. It's what they wish to implement here.

The Democrats have been actively trying to take away American guns and rights away and the Democrats have been wrapped into thinking those are good ideas, despite, history showing how Governments treat citizens without Guns and all the recorded history of Governments killing and using citizens as Science experiments. This must be legit, even thou it is two years and most deaths are tied to comorbidities.

And no one is holding China accountable or the US and UK entities that helped to fund to make this virus possible. Just fear mongering and laws that make ZERO SENSE. If it was so bad, the homeless population would all be dead. Common sense has been replaced with fear and manipulated Scientific data. Truly, sad time in history.


Wish Matty was here to explain what is happening with the UK and reportedly, those early vaccinated are told they are "High Risk" now for getting it so early...and would like to hear others on how all these countries like to change vaccinated to unvaccinated on reports to skew numbers...also...how the definition of Vaccine keeps changing, along with how you are to be protected, when there is no protection from the shots, and, how shots are tied directly to certain variants and we are suppose to feel protected with outdated shots...


Natural immunity superior.
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/20/21 11:58 PM

If you all are looking for a human rights issue in the world today to make a stand on, you are barking up the tree.

Hope you and your brave freedom fighters can get australia up to US Covid death levels.

A lot of your "makes zero sense" items there Trite have simple explanations if you paid attention to science and public health.

You all are fucking jokes.
Posted by: tson

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/21/21 04:13 AM

Sorry I didn't mean to piss you or anyone else off... not an attack on anyone in here... We are all on the same side, if you choose to take the vax or not I personally don't give 2 fks...

People can research the "science" and data and should have the ability make there own choice. If it works then that shouldn't be an issue.

I was just explaining my point of view from here..
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/21/21 08:49 AM

Yeh sounds like you have it rough there tson, hope shit gets better over there bud!

Im the same as you, ill do me and you do you, if you have the vax or not, thats your prerogative.

I deliberately ignore most Covid talk or government talk now by blocking or muting words related to it cos its been two years of negativity and im bored of hearing about it personally, this forum is one of the few places where I see anything about Covid, so the tactic is going pretty well so far, id highly recommend it.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/21/21 09:37 AM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
If you all are looking for a human rights issue in the world today to make a stand on, you are barking up the tree.

Hope you and your brave freedom fighters can get australia up to US Covid death levels.

A lot of your "makes zero sense" items there Trite have simple explanations if you paid attention to science and public health.

You all are fucking jokes.



Naw, everyone just does not believe propaganda and are scared of sunlight and hugs. Still waiting on your reasoning for someone telling someone to not be scared makes them bad Governor smile
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/24/21 06:01 AM

Originally Posted By: SbrbnHstlr
Originally Posted By: Olir


This study shows it's a goood thing they have such high vaccination rates.


Could you please expand on this Olir.


If a virus is spiking in a population, it's usually considered a good thing that the population has high levels of immunity.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/24/21 01:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Olir
Originally Posted By: SbrbnHstlr
Originally Posted By: Olir


This study shows it's a goood thing they have such high vaccination rates.


Could you please expand on this Olir.


If a virus is spiking in a population, it's usually considered a good thing that the population has high levels of immunity.



The spikes are happening after the shots...along with deaths and hospitalizations. Natural immunity is superior and the shots rip apart your immune system. Welcome ADE.
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/25/21 03:03 AM

There's an awful lot to unpack in a very short comment there Trite. If you could respond very concisely to the below:

Do you feel this way about all vaccines or just Covid vaccinations? If so which ones?

Are we still talking about Israel?
Posted by: Zakariya

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/26/21 07:15 PM

I may get vaccinated if I gotta go get a wife from a poor south American country.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/27/21 10:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Olir
There's an awful lot to unpack in a very short comment there Trite. If you could respond very concisely to the below:

Do you feel this way about all vaccines or just Covid vaccinations? If so which ones?

Are we still talking about Israel?



Fuck yea. Until they remove toxins out...
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/27/21 10:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Chubby
I may get vaccinated if I gotta go get a wife from a poor south American country.


Are you going back to playing or not?
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/27/21 09:57 PM

Chubby, you a heel or a babyface on this comeback?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/30/21 02:29 PM

Need recent comments on the EU's recent Press Conference
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/31/21 03:59 PM

Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/01/21 12:39 AM

Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/01/21 03:32 PM

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3949410

Enjoy your immunity as a service.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/03/21 02:37 AM

Italian Department of Health has revised all-time Covid deaths there from 130K+ to 3,783 and no major news coverage about them admitting they have been lying to people, strange and bizarre. Have yourselves nice day.
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/03/21 02:53 AM

Lol you know youre in deep when you care about a country youll never have any interaction with and how theyve tracked their death count lol! You were doing the same with Israel

Have a day off trite, theres a world outside those 4 walls, most of us just get on with our days and not worry about how Italy are tracking their death count!

We all know its been a mess how the deaths have been tracked with having Covid within 28 days of death leading to it being listed as cause of death, but seriously, you may help yourself mentally to not be so involved in something you have no control over, must be seriously effecting your mental health being this engrossed.

I for one have muted any words related to Covid off social media so see the odd thing but arent anywhere near as invested as I was as I stepped back and thought that its stressing me out with stuff I have no control over and tbh, shouldnt really pay attention to, my mental health during this has improved a lot by stepping back and paying less attention, you should try it smile

Yeh maybe I should pay more attention to whats going on, but for my own sanity, im not anymore, stop reading these funky fake news sites and enjoy life cos there hasnt been much to enjoy recently with all this shit going on
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/03/21 01:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Matty
Lol you know youre in deep when you care about a country youll never have any interaction with and how theyve tracked their death count lol! You were doing the same with Israel

Have a day off trite, theres a world outside those 4 walls, most of us just get on with our days and not worry about how Italy are tracking their death count!

We all know its been a mess how the deaths have been tracked with having Covid within 28 days of death leading to it being listed as cause of death, but seriously, you may help yourself mentally to not be so involved in something you have no control over, must be seriously effecting your mental health being this engrossed.

I for one have muted any words related to Covid off social media so see the odd thing but arent anywhere near as invested as I was as I stepped back and thought that its stressing me out with stuff I have no control over and tbh, shouldnt really pay attention to, my mental health during this has improved a lot by stepping back and paying less attention, you should try it smile

Yeh maybe I should pay more attention to whats going on, but for my own sanity, im not anymore, stop reading these funky fake news sites and enjoy life cos there hasnt been much to enjoy recently with all this shit going on


Naw, I'm good and I've been right this entire time. Not shocking to me, only shocking that no matter how many times there are omissions they have lied to you (Weeks to months after doing such) the narrative on MSM and other outlets remains the same. So, not about a country I'll never have any interaction with, it's about organized lying to fit an agenda and line the pockets of an industry who wants you dead. The admission of lying about Covid Deaths in America did not stop CNN from their lying ticker. Now, that deaths and sicknesses and heart attacks and strokes are all up, they are telling people it is the same people who refused the shot...and people believe that...lol


Nope, I'm going to continue that I've been fucking right the entire time, because, not like anybody admits the media and world are lying and Pfizer has these contracts with countries not to treat people with other treatments and to keep administering the shots no matter what...


Think this one goes for you and Blim, since, the YouTube video of the Dr saying those vaccinated Immunity panels looks like those with AIDS...and literally showed results...citing your immune system is under attack....and Blim told me to cite better sources...well


http://robert-gorter.info/according-uk-g...-syndrome-aids/


Keep thinking those of us telling the truth and banging the drums are the one's with misinformation or stressed out. I'm not being paid a cent to tell you these things. I'm good though Matty lol. Mental Health is important and those shots are ripping apart T Cells, no matter how happy your thoughts are.
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/03/21 10:51 PM

lol that dude looks like a quack.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/03/21 10:57 PM

https://twitter.com/jengleruk
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/04/21 02:32 PM

Covid is raging through Romania right now, low vaccination rate high death rate.

Real shame to see. Was speaking to someone in country a few days back, they are very worried.

Of course we have to admit the dead people would have had great natural immunity if they survived.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/06/21 01:55 AM

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/20...vid-19-vaccines


And this does not talk about the ADE or the AIDS impact on your immune systems. When Mainstream news can't hide it, but, so many are indoctrinated, does it even really matter?
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/06/21 07:04 AM

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Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/08/21 02:12 AM

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Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/12/21 06:20 AM

Who saw Jordan Peterson rant about how this is political and not based on Science...when talking about the restrictions in Canada and how absolutely none of the restrictions make any sense? smile
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/12/21 10:24 AM

Jordan Peterson is complete dogshit.

Did see this recently. Pretty good stuff.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfKKw3S4UkeW7fSfeicByWnGqNgJ8w_A-7Enbao9kO6GS5XAw/viewform
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/12/21 02:43 PM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
Jordan Peterson is complete dogshit.

Did see this recently. Pretty good stuff.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfKKw3S4UkeW7fSfeicByWnGqNgJ8w_A-7Enbao9kO6GS5XAw/viewform


Taking quotes out of context can be very disingenuous. Especially if we're talking about a Philosophy professor who quotes other people for a living.

I am very curious as to how you think Jordan Peterson is dog shit. Something more than an ad hominem would be preferred.
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/12/21 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: SbrbnHstlr
Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
Jordan Peterson is complete dogshit.

Did see this recently. Pretty good stuff.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfKKw3S4UkeW7fSfeicByWnGqNgJ8w_A-7Enbao9kO6GS5XAw/viewform


Taking quotes out of context can be very disingenuous. Especially if we're talking about a Philosophy professor who quotes other people for a living.

I am very curious as to how you think Jordan Peterson is dog shit. Something more than an ad hominem would be preferred.


Peterson is someone who I enjoy listening to but I only agree with him half of the time at best
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/12/21 10:00 PM

That was a joke SH. Sorry if it cut too deep for ya. I thought it was funny.

He made his name off being a anti trans asshole. His views on the left, marx, race, feminism, etc are terrible.

He styles himself as a role model but doesnt have his own shit together.

Not suprised he's a hit with the crowd here.
Posted by: Ho Brah!

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/14/21 12:47 AM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
That was a joke SH. Sorry if it cut too deep for ya. I thought it was funny.

He made his name off being a anti trans asshole. His views on the left, marx, race, feminism, etc are terrible.

He styles himself as a role model but doesnt have his own shit together.

Not suprised he's a hit with the crowd here.



Smh, it appears that Drink Drank the kool-aid and got way too Crunk.
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/14/21 07:31 AM

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Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/15/21 10:48 AM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
🙄


Beep Bop Boop

FaceWithRollingEyes.


Your botmode has engaged again Drink. wink
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/15/21 01:50 PM

Works in sbox but not here...

Next week on Unsolved Mysteries...
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/18/21 05:15 PM

Jordan Peterson is hilarious and regularly destroys people in debates with actual logic...ohh...how goes the smallpox?
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/19/21 09:21 AM

Got to confess...I'm pretty well unfamiliar with Jordan Peterson. I mean I've heard of him but never seen so much as a real vid or tweet by him that I can recall. Know he has some very popular vids with the facebook set and people on the right love him but that's about it.

Maybe one day I'll check it out to make my own judgments, but still on a break here, sick wife and a teenager leaves no time for political stuff. So it goes, hope all of you are doing well.
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/20/21 01:01 AM

I like a bit of what Peterson says because he's into personal liberty. But he goes down semantic rabbitholes from time to time which lead to pointless discussions that don't really go anywhere. He just uses a lot of complicated sounding language.

The points being made a quite simple but he labours them so much; some people think he's playing 4D chess but he's not.

He also has some quite sucky opinions and post some totally misleading BS.
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/20/21 01:33 AM

So hes basically an American Russell brand? Makes good points, makes bad points, but relies heavily on big words to make himself seem more intelligent? Ive never looked into the guy tbh
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/20/21 02:03 AM

Sort of. He's a clinical psychiatrist and a professor at some Canadian university. So he does know his stuff about certain schools of psychiatry, of which he relates just about everything to.

Obviously Brand went to theatre school.

However I don't know how much time you guys have spent with professors; but in my experience whilst they know a lot about certain things, they know f-all about others and can be quite weird. Peterson has plenty of that going on.
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/20/21 02:07 AM

Yeh ive known a professor and numerous scientists and they know so much about their field, but are literally clueless about others and in particular, common sense lol, like the smartest guys ive ever known but thick as shit in some areas, areas that are basic for any human XD
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/22/21 09:34 AM

I've read none of the above responses. All your thoughts on Smallpox
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/22/21 12:53 PM

seems pretty horrible to me, thankfully it was able to be pretty much eliminated through science.
Posted by: Migrantworkers

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/22/21 01:25 PM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
seems pretty horrible to me, thankfully it was able to be pretty much eliminated through science.



Well I think we all can agree that there are those who do not think science is real
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/22/21 01:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Migrantworkers
Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
seems pretty horrible to me, thankfully it was able to be pretty much eliminated through science.



Well I think we all can agree that there are those who do not think science is real


Very rarely is "science" considered to be settled facts.

Here's an example of modern scientists being stumped:

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/...saster-81271647
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/22/21 02:01 PM

Also, im sure this is what Trite is alluding to by asking us all for our opinions on smallpox.

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/loc...cility/3050775/
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/22/21 02:33 PM

yeah saw that.

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Thursday that testing showed the vials contain "vaccinia, the virus used in smallpox vaccine" and not the variola virus, which causes smallpox."

definitely need to get their quality control together in that lab if they are finding random shit like that in their freezers.

smallpox outbreak would be bad news in US with so many distrustful of vaccines/public health measures.

what's your take Trite?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/22/21 05:26 PM

Lololol. You do not want my take. I can give it tho.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/22/21 05:27 PM

BTW Science is very real. So is the pharma industry and other corporate entities paying for the results they want. Science is to be questioned and not settled and if you do not accept what you are told blah. That is much different. Science did defeat Smallpox and now they are preparing to put it back out.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/23/21 11:47 PM

Now, I'd only like to hear from Leftists who believe in Climate Change and DeSantis being so horrible.

Why did Nancy Pelosi buy a FLORIDA 25 million dollar mansion on the beach?

You recognize this is a huge fuck you to those who are Democrats? She pulls for the opposite of how Florida is ran and chooses to live there, even though the Democratic party has advocated about climate change (Many of them live on Beach Fronts and do not believe in Climate Change, it's just a tool used for control)

Opinions please lolololololololol
Posted by: ulithebison

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/24/21 08:29 AM

Leaving aside the political content of your question, do you believe in climate change? That would simply interest me.
And where do you live? So in the city or rather in the country?
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/24/21 01:34 PM

Replies in this thread often devolve into US political mudslinging as if that's some kind of "gotcha". I for one have very little interest and absolutely no stake in whether a US politician is somehow hypocritical over climate change.

Same with various other topics in this thread that have devolved in the same way,
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/24/21 02:11 PM

Naw...I believe in weather manipulation and if climate change were real...the politicians telling us such would not all live on the Beach. Earth moves in cycles, this can be discovered through the geological changes that are still left and evident for us now and the biggest impact of waste from emissions are from China and India and no one is telling them to cut out their emissions.

If it was not a weaponized political issue...would give me more credence to believe and if the creator of the weather channel did not flat out say the Democrats are lying about it...iooooono
Posted by: DrinkDrankCrunk

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/24/21 02:47 PM

Pelosi is a rich politician, so why are you surprised she is buying a million dollar beach house? she is old AF and could care less if its underwater in 20 years. Is it a foolish move that shows her complete disconnect from the people she is supposed to represent? Yes, of course. She got primaried from the left last election by Shahid Buttar, but unfortunately she had the name recognition, money and party support to win.

Does this disprove climate change being a real thing? No, of course not.
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/24/21 10:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Olir
Replies in this thread often devolve into US political mudslinging as if that's some kind of "gotcha". I for one have very little interest and absolutely no stake in whether a US politician is somehow hypocritical over climate change.

Same with various other topics in this thread that have devolved in the same way,


This, everytime lol
Posted by: ulithebison

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/25/21 06:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Trite
Naw...I believe in weather manipulation and if climate change were real...the politicians telling us such would not all live on the Beach.


Have now followed some of your comments here. According to your opinion, is there anything on the world that is not manipulated by someone?

Originally Posted By: Trite
Earth moves in cycles, this can be discovered through the geological changes that are still left and evident for us now


Totally agree with you.

Originally Posted By: Trite
and the biggest impact of waste from emissions are from China and India and no one is telling them to cut out their emissions.


As a European, it's always funny when an American complains about the CO2 emissions of China and India.
Especially when U.S. emissions are higher than India's. And I'm pretty sure it's even worse per capita than China's emissions.
But these numbers are probably manipulated by the weather man on CNN. :-)

Originally Posted By: Trite
If it was not a weaponized political issue...would give me more credence to believe and if the creator of the weather channel did not flat out say the Democrats are lying about it...iooooono

Wtf are you talking about?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/26/21 03:16 PM

Everything manipulated and I do not watch CNN or any mainstream news. You have to be willful in being naive to not think manipulation and corruption is involved in anything to do with power. Too much history to show that.


You are in Germany. What is the name of the Dr who committed suicide out there?

The carbon footprint humans are capable of are not capable of changing the world on the geological level claimed. There has always been some immenent issue with climate and weather since I could remember. It is to govern through fear.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/26/21 03:17 PM

Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
Pelosi is a rich politician, so why are you surprised she is buying a million dollar beach house? she is old AF and could care less if its underwater in 20 years. Is it a foolish move that shows her complete disconnect from the people she is supposed to represent? Yes, of course. She got primaried from the left last election by Shahid Buttar, but unfortunately she had the name recognition, money and party support to win.

Does this disprove climate change being a real thing? No, of course not.



Ton of the Leftists saying it is real live on beach fronts lol. They also do not believe in the policies they push. Lolololol
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/26/21 04:07 PM

Do you think climate change is some kind of sea monster that will strike from the shallows?
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/27/21 12:18 AM

Trite, the weathers shit here, can u get in contact with those who manipulate the weather and ask them to get the sun out, cheers
Posted by: Ho Brah!

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/27/21 01:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Trite
Originally Posted By: DrinkDrankCrunk
Pelosi is a rich politician, so why are you surprised she is buying a million dollar beach house? she is old AF and could care less if its underwater in 20 years. Is it a foolish move that shows her complete disconnect from the people she is supposed to represent? Yes, of course. She got primaried from the left last election by Shahid Buttar, but unfortunately she had the name recognition, money and party support to win.

Does this disprove climate change being a real thing? No, of course not.



Ton of the Leftists saying it is real live on beach fronts lol. They also do not believe in the policies they push. Lolololol


Obama recently bought two beachfront/waterfront properties. One in Martha's Vineyard and the other is the Well known Magnum Estate in Hawaii. 20 million ballin.
Posted by: Jarnoh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/27/21 01:47 AM

The climate change discussion is just weird. Climate has always changed throughout history, or does anyone here want to deny there've been ice ages? Now suddenly it should be a massive problem if the temperature just rises one degree.

Maybe human activities cause the planet to warm up a bit, maybe there are other causes or maybe the weather man is a liar and it doesn't warm up that much at all. I'd say just adapt to the changes if they happen.
Posted by: ulithebison

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/27/21 10:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Jarnoh
The climate change discussion is just weird. Climate has always changed throughout history, or does anyone here want to deny there've been ice ages? Now suddenly it should be a massive problem if the temperature just rises one degree.

Maybe human activities cause the planet to warm up a bit, maybe there are other causes or maybe the weather man is a liar and it doesn't warm up that much at all. I'd say just adapt to the changes if they happen.


Now I'm not a climate advocate, but unfortunately it's not that simple. You of all people, as a Dutchman, should know that very well. Your country is disappearing into the sea.

The global climate has always shown more or less strong fluctuations, caused by various natural processes. In general, four different parameters can be named that cause the global climate to fluctuate:

Changes in incident solar radiation
Changes in reflected solar radiation
Changes in thermal radiation emitted into space
Internal variations of the climate system

Recurrent changes in the Earth's orbit can be detected at regular, very large intervals of tens of thousands of years, with high correlations documented with climatic changes on Earth.

The special/worst thing about the present climate change is its speed.1 degree in 100 years is too much compared to a "normal" climate change. The above-average rapid climate changes since the 19th century are primarily due to the dawn of the industrial age.
If you don't believe me, you are welcome to visit me and we will go to the Alps and I will show you the change in the last 10 years alone.
Posted by: Jarnoh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/27/21 01:46 PM

https://www.oxfam.org.uk/media/press-rel...-limit-in-2030/

Good luck convincing the richest people of the world to live like the poorest ones then. Me flying over to the Alps to look at the remaining parts of the glaciers would only make them shrink further smile

The disappearing into the sea of the Netherlands any time soon is probably a lot of fearmongering. You may have noticed there's a lot of that going on in the world. In fact: the land surface of the Netherlands has grown a lot since the dawn of the industrial revolution (look up "inpolderen").
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/27/21 04:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Matty
Trite, the weathers shit here, can u get in contact with those who manipulate the weather and ask them to get the sun out, cheers


I do not work for any entity who does such. Would say that if I did...I may punish you further tbh lolololol
Posted by: ulithebison

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/28/21 06:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Jarnoh
https://www.oxfam.org.uk/media/press-releases/carbon-emissions-of-richest-1-set-to-be-30-times-the-15c-limit-in-2030/

Good luck convincing the richest people of the world to live like the poorest ones then. Me flying over to the Alps to look at the remaining parts of the glaciers would only make them shrink further smile


You are also welcome to come by train.

Originally Posted By: Jarnoh
The disappearing into the sea of the Netherlands any time soon is probably a lot of fearmongering. You may have noticed there's a lot of that going on in the world. In fact: the land surface of the Netherlands has grown a lot since the dawn of the industrial revolution (look up "inpolderen").


Sure, by filling up areas. Do not close your eyes. The sea level has risen about 12 to 20 centimeters from 1902 to 2010. The rate at which the sea level is rising has increased. In the last few years, it has risen twice as fast compared to the 20th century, with a rise of 4 to 5 millimeters every year. The rate at which the sea level is rising is still increasing.
Posted by: Jarnoh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/28/21 08:17 AM

I'm not closing my eyes and know that the figures you're naming are what many scientist are agreeing about. If they're indeed correct we'll probably just have to live with it because it's not likely the richest part of world population will part with their luxuries. No more glaciers for you and I'll have to invest in a nice pair of wellies.

But don't worry too much about it: any civilization will collapse at some point. After ours has the climate can go it's own way again.
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/28/21 08:37 AM

What's the end game of climate denial? Do you want everyone to keep using fossil fuels? If so, there's a host of further problems with that.

Regardless of the carbon we have been pumping into the atmosphere I am changing my investments to green energy and battery supply chains. I'm not buying another petrol/diesel car. I don't want to be left stranded when the next fuel crisis happens.
Posted by: Jarnoh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/28/21 09:06 AM

The rest of the world probably doens't care what energy they should use according to me. However, if I was a dictator there wouldn't even be cars in my country: ride a bicycle or walk/run. No planes either.
Posted by: ulithebison

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/30/21 04:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Jarnoh
I'm not closing my eyes and know that the figures you're naming are what many scientist are agreeing about. If they're indeed correct we'll probably just have to live with it because it's not likely the richest part of world population will part with their luxuries. No more glaciers for you and I'll have to invest in a nice pair of wellies.

But don't worry too much about it: any civilization will collapse at some point. After ours has the climate can go it's own way again.


So you have more of a "fuck you all" attitude. If they don't change anything, I don't have to either, right?

It's always the others' fault. Why should I do something when the others do nothing?
Mankind is simply lazy, selfish and ignorant. That is what brings civilizations down.

What about your children, grandchildren, nephews, nieces?
Because that's what I always think. And everyone can do their part.
Posted by: Jarnoh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/30/21 07:16 AM

Lol, you're not reading it correctly. I don't have a car, don't travel by plane, planted up the garden - couple of trees, flowers for the bees etc. Energy consumption of the household is way below the average for the country. I'm just saying it probably doesn't help at all as most people 'doing their part' are still participating in activities that are said to harm the planet.

What never ceases to amuse me, for example, are people that are so passionate about nature that they have to fly all over the planet every year to visit as many distant places as possible. Of course they are 'doing their part' to protect the planet by not eating meat or something.

I'm not lazy or saying 'fuck it all', just realistic about the fact that if human activities change the climate you'll have to live with the consequences anyway at some point.
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/30/21 07:52 AM

Theres definitely a do as we say, not as we do mentality with the rich, famous and anyone in power
Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/30/21 12:48 PM

Posted by: SbrbnHstlr

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/30/21 12:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Matty
Theres definitely a do as we say, not as we do mentality with the rich, famous and anyone in power


Ohhh, like this?

Originally Posted By: CNBC
The two-week COP26 climate summit, which ends on Friday, will emit about 102,500 tons of carbon dioxide thats the equivalent of total average annual emissions for more than 8,000 U.K. residents.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/12/cop26-cl...in-culprit.html

Rules for thee, not for me. I guess they didnt have the infrastructure to host a Zoom meeting like everyone else has had to these past years.


In other news;

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/covid-19-vaccine-trials-cannot-tell-us-if-they-will-save-lives/
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/10/22 09:52 PM

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/mili...estimony-under/
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/11/22 07:34 AM

I'm busy and arguing like a dick but it kills me to let shit stand undiscussed sometimes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/12/cop26-cl...in-culprit.html
- Partisan hackery, any large gathering involving air travel will use a lot of carbon. But if presented as hypocritical it will give that sweet anger adrenaline shot to someone who already hates the libs. Enjoy that anger. so hypocritical, with their flying in planes for a global meeeting.

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/covid-19-vaccine-trials-cannot-tell-us-if-they-will-save-lives/
- I love how the article starts by citing the website editor as a reliable source, top teir journalism. They say that the trials should focus more on finding long standing serious disease impacts from covid rather than focusing on whether the vaccines cure diseases. Ok... but long standing disease studies are already in progress. Initial trials can't study long term disease impacts without extending the trial. Current trials were run expediently as possible, with follow-up research already ongoing. This is critiquing something that is not a flaw. But works if you're looking for validation to a preconceived view. Feel smart and justified?


[url=ttps://www.projectveritas.com/news/mili...estimony-under/]ttps://www.projectveritas.com/news/mili...estimony-under/[/url]
Veritas is arguing what...fauci was involved in covid research and therefore caused covid? Who cares? What's the long game? Does this change the policy? Does this change the science behind how covid works and how it should be treated? In the end the origins will likely be found. If bad behavior was present, it will be accounted for. Or it won't. Such is life. Either way I kind of could care less about this one. What is impactful to you about it?
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/11/22 08:14 AM

Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/11/22 08:15 AM

Easier to put out things than argue them, so here you go. Of course, I expect an answer on all of these, how do you ignore them?

Local news source, NC hospitals say nearly all patients on ventilators are unvaccinated -
https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/nc-hospitals-covid-19-ventilators/20065686/

Texas Data Shows Unvaccinated People 20 times More Likely to Die From COVID-19
https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news/releases/2021/20211108.aspx

Kaiser study showing increased death rates among unvaccinated compared with vaccinated
https://www.kp-scalresearch.org/new-stud...ine-recipients/

Study showing reduced rate of trasmission of covid among vaccinated individuals
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext


COVID Vaccines Show No Signs of Harming Fertility or Sexual Function. The novel coronavirus, in contrast, can disrupt both things in unvaccinated men and women.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...impression=true


CDC study showing out of 1.2 million infections among vaccinated individuals, just 36 have died, a .03% rate. Of those 36, 78% had 4 or more comorbidities. This is currently being spun by conservative media as the only people who are dying period have 4 comorbidities. Keep an eye out on your favorite misinformation site for this message soon.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/20...e-risk-factors/


Trump administration deliberately tanked covid response for political purposes -
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/po...-hopes-1273420/


A study of the impact of national face mask laws on Covid-19 mortality in 44 countries with a combined population of nearly a billion people found significantly slower rates of deaths in countries with mandates
https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(21)00557-2/fulltext


CDC in trump admin "felt they were hamstrung by a White House whose decisions are driven by politics rather than sciencef"
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/po...avirus-1257495/

Project Veritas caught running a fake news story, hiring someone to pretend to be a sexual assault victim
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017...eloved-by-trump

Breakdown on project veritas, MO is basically creating fake news by editing clips together to create a narrative from out of context statements when not outright hiring fake statements like in the article above -
https://www.newsweek.com/2018/02/02/jame...ews-781964.html

Much more comprehensive breakdown of the issues with project veritas
https://www.aft.org/sites/default/files/projectveritasbackgrounder_may2018.pdf

Speaking of sources,
Study finds Conservatives more susceptible to believing falsehood
https://news.osu.edu/conservatives-more-susceptible-to-believing-falsehoods/



Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/11/22 11:50 AM

How about those new Dr. Fauci emails going public?
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/11/22 12:12 PM

They recategorize vaccinated and unvaccinated Blim. I feel like I have repeated that many many many times. These are fear porn stories. CDC admitted 75% of people they mark as dying have four or more comorbidities. They admitted it. Cats out the bag bro. Only the really sick are really feeling this

Treatment is leading to ventilators and deaths. They are knowingly doing it How can 4% of the population lead to 25% in deaths? You back to normal yet? The spread slow down? How is Israel? They are leading the way with another shot.

Are you wanting the spread to slow down or are you fear mongering people into not having hospital beds where staff is getting fired and they are remarking people's vaccination status to trick the numbers? If it is the latter...people should be able to gather their own risk if the vaccine does NOTHING to stop the spread. Everyone is not living off fear.

COVID here forever. These measures are about control. Your immune system is being attacked and getting vaccinated makes you more likely to contract. Two years into this and the world still going. Seems to be more about identity Politics and hivemind. I know it is hard to believe we have all been lied too...but ..that is what evil people with power do...they lie to people.

Why are you not upset that this was deliberately made and released? How is that not upsetting to everybody? Made in a Chinese Lab and funded by American Dollars. No...let's be mad at the people who don't trust the people who lied about the origins with their experimental shots. Yea...ok.


I am not Conservative by the way lol. Do recall CNN and MSNBC having the Libs think Trump collided with Russia (when it was Hillary Clinton) and Covid came from a Bat, and you need a vaccine to protect you from the flu...even tho you can still get the weaponized flu and pass it along. Ivermectin is just for horses (even tho mbrs of Congress and Big tech CEO's are taking it and lying to the public lol), men can have babies (lol) Florida is doing such a horrible job (despite so many Libs taking trips down there)...

Some conservatives think Trump is superman and JFK Jr. Faked his death and is a huge Trump supporter now (lol)


It is Jan 2022 and no isolation of the virus. How are you not demanding this? They know the genetic sequence. Was in one of Fauci emails. Why no isolation? Why are anti parasitic medications claimed to have work on a viral respiratory infection? What are they not telling us and why is the Left content with just accepting what they are told without critical thinking about how people are paid and what their motive is for a narrative? Blindly trusting the experts got people thinking this came from a Bat lol

Ioono. Maybe everybody asking them to isolate the virus are the really stupid people.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/11/22 12:24 PM

Fukin ell man, you want an argument eventually will get called out enough to have one, but I really don't have the time for it.


"They recategorize vaccinated and unvaccinated Blim. " - Already addressed this, that would trigger the shit out of medical audits, this is not happening. Anyone telling you that is full of shit. Where's the proof?


"I feel like I have repeated that many many many times. These are fear porn stories. CDC admitted 75% of people they mark as dying have four or more comorbidities. They admitted it. Cats out the bag bro. Only the really sick are really feeling this"

Wait, realized I misread this one. Yes, that statistic is consistent with the data for VACCINATED people, not UNVACCINATED. Conservative media is equating that number to all people and sounds like you bought it. Congrats, you got grifted. THere is no data to back up that number in an unvaccinated population.

"Treatment is leading to ventilators and deaths. They are knowingly doing it How can 4% of the population lead to 25% in deaths? You back to normal yet? The spread slow down? How is Israel? They are leading the way with another shot."


No clue how israel is, don't really care. They have been used as a model by the scientific community due to good vaccine tracking, last I heard statistically they are in line with the rest of the data.


"Are you wanting the spread to slow down or are you fear mongering people into not having hospital beds where staff is getting fired and they are remarking people's vaccination status to trick the numbers? If it is the latter...people should be able to gather their own risk if the vaccine does NOTHING to stop the spread. Everyone is not living off fear."

Wait what? Feel a little like I had a stroke reading that. I'm not fear mongering anything. Data shows unvaccinated much more likely to spread the virus as well as experience more severe symptoms. so...what is your point? in what way does this lead you to the conclusion NOTHING will stop the spread? It is easy to tear thing down, hard to build them up.


"COVID here forever. These measures are about control. Your immune system is being attacked and getting vaccinated makes you more likely to contract. Two years into this and the world still going. Seems to be more about identity Politics and hivemind. I know it is hard to believe we have all been lied too...but ..that is what evil people with power do...they lie to people."


What a moment. You realize the language above is actual generic language designed to elicit an emotional response? Notice the lack of quanitfyable facts? I post research and you respond with saying I am fear mongering and then reply with an actual fearmongering generic tirade against "they".


"Why are you not upset that this was deliberately made and released? How is that not upsetting to everybody? Made in a Chinese Lab and funded by American Dollars. No...let's be mad at the people who don't trust the people who lied about the origins with their experimental shots. Yea...ok."

Because it will impact literally nothing if true. Eventually the people who hold people accountable will be involved if that sort of thing is happening, but so far does not look like it is. Generally the trump media team will paint everyone as evil and worthy of contempt they don't like. Remember Obamagate he was trying to push based on nothing?


"I am not Conservative by the way lol. Do recall CNN and MSNBC having the Libs think Trump collided with Russia (when it was Hillary Clinton) and Covid came from a Bat, and you need a vaccine to protect you from the flu...even tho you can still get the weaponized flu and pass it along. Ivermectin is just for horses (even tho mbrs of Congress and Big tech CEO's are taking it and lying to the public lol), men can have babies (lol) Florida is doing such a horrible job (despite so many Libs taking trips down there)...

Some conservatives think Trump is superman and JFK Jr. Faked his death and is a huge Trump supporter now (lol)"

Yeah fair, there are always people further or more narrow down a political path.


"It is Jan 2022 and no isolation of the virus. How are you not demanding this? They know the genetic sequence. Was in one of Fauci emails. Why no isolation? Why are anti parasitic medications claimed to have work on a viral respiratory infection? What are they not telling us and why is the Left content with just accepting what they are told without critical thinking about how people are paid and what their motive is for a narrative? Blindly trusting the experts got people thinking this came from a Bat lol

Ioono. Maybe everybody asking them to isolate the virus are the really stupid people."

Virus has been isolated, I posted proof and details in my other long post that you ignored. Read some shit.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/11/22 12:57 PM

Updated one point above, misread the question.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/11/22 02:24 PM

Will Dr. Fauci release all redacted information regarding gain of function in the Wuhan lab?
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/11/22 02:28 PM

Personally don't know or care. He will or he won't, I"m not particularly tied to Fauci's fate. It won't impact the reality or treatment of covid, the data has gone far beyond one man or one country in painting the picure of what humanity is dealing with.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/12/22 08:46 AM

CDC reporting roughly 50,000 COVID Deaths in the USA. How come this is not blasted everywhere the fear porn is?
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/12/22 08:53 AM

Source?
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/12/22 08:57 AM

According to their own website the death count is 837,234

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home



Given that other countries have their own tracking and regulatory organizations and the data is similar on all it is HIGHLY likely that the source you got that from pulled it directly from their own ass or from out of context misrepresented statements. You have a track record for that shit here now, though you ignore any clarification about how your sources misrepesented real info and keep posting the same bullshit. Really kind of had it
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/12/22 10:52 AM

I'll post link when I get off work.


Thoughts on EU and WHO warning against boosters now? What is going on here?
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/12/22 11:17 AM

is this the 3rd jab or 4th jab? because you are very vague and dont give full facts, ive seen they recommend that the 4th isnt needed, but are very positive about the 3rd and its effects, whether theyre right or wrong with that view
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/12/22 11:23 AM

Thus far clinical data for the vaccination booster very strongly indicates protection against serious covid symptoms, a fact which is reflected in hospitalization data worldwide, can post links to research/data if needed.

Would be unusual for the messaging to defer from that, and would likely require divergent research to approve such a change in messaging. Possible, but nothing like that has come out that I have heard.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/12/22 11:38 AM

Who read the DARPA report that was Unearthed? Looks as if DARPA determined the shots don't work and they gave a pretty good explanation. There is also a section station that Fauci went ahead with Wuhan's request and the Gain of Function research even on American Soil.


Matty...you are in Europe and should be more aware of the messaging and why they are changing it at this time. Would it have anything to do with DARPA's report being leaked on the internet? Further boosters could damage your immune system. Sounds like conspiracy theory to me...Ioono bro. They better ask some different experts.

Why would the CDC director admit to 75% of fatalities are from people with four or more comorbidities during an interview?

Why would the CEO of Pfizer make a statement that they're MAY be some protection with this new varient and maybe some with booster and why is Pfizer having the video taken down everywhere? Shots are specific to strains...right?
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/12/22 11:42 AM

No idea on the darpa thing, haven't read it or heard of it. One man or one organizations opinion don't invalidate data though.

Why would the CDC director admit to 75% of fatalities are from people with four or more comorbidities during an interview? Sounds like a misspeak, that figure is from the 36 vaccinated fatalities. But you keep ignoring this clarication. There is solid data to back this up and NO data to back up 75% overall. So it would be nonsensical to state otherwise.

Why would the CEO of Pfizer make a statement that they're MAY be some protection with this new varient and maybe some with booster and why is Pfizer having the video taken down everywhere? Shots are specific to strains...right?
Because research is ongoing. Making the statement that an additional booster is effective without testing to back this up is irresponsible. As far as them getting removed, covid misinformation is rampant (see your question 1 above) I would imagine automods remove a ton of stuff in general. No platform wants to get sued because someone posts trumps recipe for curing covid by injecting bleach and someone dies.
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/12/22 12:37 PM

btw trite, as usual you failed to post the link to back up any of your claims XD
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/12/22 01:54 PM

Matty you forgot to read I am working and on my phone and not my laptop. Not sure how this information is out there and the data can be sourced you lazy fuck.

Blim...with the impossible task of noting every person who comes in for every reason every percentage can only be based on trends and extrapolations. It is nonsensical to believe any statistical point at any time...as people lie and make up things to fit narratives all the time. Dependong on variables and what you are looking for, numbers can be scewed any way. We all know that.

Think you should read the Darpa report and be concerned why the branch of the US Military that oversees all sorts of weapons would refuse gain of function research and then claim Fauci accepted and went through with it on American Soil. Obama approved that grant...Also...why Dr Fauci is continuing to claim otherwise.

Pfizer would be mpre apt to claim ongoong research and not just retract the video from the CEO going against what their marketing department has been claiming.

Sorry guys...what part of India has defeated Covid and why did Joe Biden ask them not to disclose how they did it? If they currently have it under control...why not share it with the rest of the world?


Also...not sure of touched on...why did Pfizer want to hide the data for 75 years?
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/12/22 02:20 PM

No sources no clue on what you're talking about on India, darpa, etc, that shit could be entirely made up.

Data tracking has been going on from multiple organizations from multiple countries. It is insane to think that all of that data gathering is wrong or fabricated in the same ways. Experiments and trials for medications have been going on for years now, there are too many countries, organizations, and labs for this shit to be fake, for the scientific consensus to be incorrect.

There isn't enough money in the world to make that happen, claiming so makes you sound like a child with no understanding of science, logistics, or politics. Sad thing is millions of americans are at exactly that level and buy this shit based on claims alone, then people die from it.

Keep on pushing, what do you think your body count is at? most antivax information sharers have one. Is this your year to get it into the double digits?

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If it were incorrect these actors who make statments would be providing data for peer review. This is not happening, and believe me conservative think tanks have been trying. I can provide the data, but you can't provide any sources to back up your claims. And Data is just about the only means of refuting other data, anything else is talking heads with an agenda.

If your news is opposed to science and data gathering, ie actual measurents of reality, chances are 99.9% it is fake. I'll bet you a billion dollars we don't see mass deaths from covid vaccinations in the next year. You said a couple of years from the first vax we'll start keeling over, right?

Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/12/22 02:45 PM

Here is another reason I like data. The Mypillow guy came out saying he has enough evidence to put "300 million Americans in jail for election fraud". Makes you made doesn't it? They stole the election. But let's check the data.

That's more than the entire adult population of America. That's a real ridiculous statement in that context. Why wouldn't that many people vote? That's more than voted for Trump and Biden combined. Sounds ridiculous when you consider the scope he is talking about vs reality.

Your statements almost all have this same sort of disparity in the other direction. Some guy who works for Pfiser or the military says something so you claim it invalidates things like studies with a sample size of 1 million. Or claiming that covid hasn't been synthesized when this was based on a social media made video that purposefully misrepresents a CDC report -
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-cdc-idUSKBN27633R

Statements from people get emotional reactions to things. That's enough when you want political action. If your news is pushing emotional reactions they are most likely propagandizing for an agenda. But science and data remain the closest thing we have in this world to truth. Not even close to perfect, am sure lots of things I claim here will be proven wrong in time, but they are the best we have.


But who am I kidding? You get called out and ignore it or say you didn't read it then keep posting the same things. Am I wasting my time? Tried man, I tried, I'm sorry you're following the stupid news. I'm sorry I couldn't save you from it.
Posted by: Trite

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/12/22 10:50 PM

Lol @ Mypillowguy. The Hardcore Trumplicans love the guy.


Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death. For data on deaths involving COVID-19 by time-period, jurisdiction, and other health conditions,

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
Posted by: Matty

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/12/22 11:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Trite
Matty you forgot to read I am working and on my phone and not my laptop. Not sure how this information is out there and the data can be sourced you lazy fuck.

Blim...with the impossible task of noting every person who comes in for every reason every percentage can only be based on trends and extrapolations. It is nonsensical to believe any statistical point at any time...as people lie and make up things to fit narratives all the time. Dependong on variables and what you are looking for, numbers can be scewed any way. We all know that.

Think you should read the Darpa report and be concerned why the branch of the US Military that oversees all sorts of weapons would refuse gain of function research and then claim Fauci accepted and went through with it on American Soil. Obama approved that grant...Also...why Dr Fauci is continuing to claim otherwise.

Pfizer would be mpre apt to claim ongoong research and not just retract the video from the CEO going against what their marketing department has been claiming.

Sorry guys...what part of India has defeated Covid and why did Joe Biden ask them not to disclose how they did it? If they currently have it under control...why not share it with the rest of the world?


Also...not sure of touched on...why did Pfizer want to hide the data for 75 years?


Where did you see India is free of covid? As much as im dubious about testing numbers, they posted nearly a quarter of a million new cases yesterday, so unsure how theyve defeated it??

Also Blim seems to have answered most, if not all of your points, while youve dodged anything in reply, aswell as not posting things to back up previous things you said you have links for, why is this?
Embarrassed by the legitimacy of your sources I imagine
Posted by: Olir

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/14/22 10:23 AM

Lol India free of Covid. I work with colleagues all over India, it's not free of Covid.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/14/22 01:46 PM

Thing about the comorbidity data, this is an extention of something Trump pushed for a while, that only a small percentage of people die from Covid itsself. When they say "on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death" This does not exclude COVID-19, but combines it with other illnesses, often triggered by the new coronavirus itself.

Someone with pneumonia and Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS) as causes of death, with diabetes and hypertension as contributing factors would have 4 comorbidities. There is still data from many countries, research groups, and hospitals all maintaining massive reductions in serious illness and hospitalization from covid among vaccinated individauls vs unvaccinated, I can provide more links if you wish.

CDC should update the summary of their weekly data, there are studies which contradict the weekly summary as stated regarding 4 commorbidities and indicate that this only applies to vaccinated individuals, such as this study with a sample size of 1.2 million -
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7101a4.htm?s_cid=mm7101a4_e&ACSTrackingID=USCDC_921-DM72953&ACSTrackingLabel=This%20Week%20in%20MMWR%20-%20Vol.%2071,%20January%207,%202022&deliveryName=USCDC_921-DM72953


Asked a biologist source about it as the summary is being used by conservative media to push the "you're fine if healthy and unvaxxed" narrative hard. CDC isn't perfect, data isn't perfect and will surely be updated and clarified as time goes on and more observations are recorded. It's just the best we have, and the best chance for a positive outcome.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/14/22 02:01 PM

After further review with people who know way more about biology than me, the full dataset indicates that the 4 comorbidities is ONLY among vaccinated individuals, the weekly summary does not include that data point, but it exists if you pull up the data.

The CDC director quote was out of context, just showing part of what they said in the full quote. If you pull up the full quote they confirm this is just among the vaccinated. The fact that you indicated the cdc director says otherwise says a lot about your skepticism of sources.

Bad summary on that page which is being taken as "if you're healthy you're fine" by a lot of unfortunate people.
Posted by: BlimBlapZing

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 01/14/22 04:22 PM

Man I was happy taking a break from arguing about this stuff and just talking about fun stuff like nma and food. Now im arguing and being snippy and obsessing about things. Maybe the data above is from omicron and is leading to much better outcomes for healthy people, would be good news overall. So far other pmicron data looking much less lethal, and it is contagious enough to maybe be the dominant strain. Could work out.


Just seems like everyone is getting it right now. I swear literally almost everyone I know in knoxville hast posted about getting covid in the last 1-2 weeks, our numbers are Terrible and tests sold out everywhere. Stressful stuff to focus on. Hopefully that wave starts to drop soon.


Made 15 bean soup tonight. Have anything good?
Posted by: Drifter

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 03/23/22 06:49 AM

15 bean soup... got a recipe?
Posted by: Zakariya

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 06/29/23 09:28 AM

There is only Allah. Jesus is not God, the holy spirit is not God. Without Allah there is no strength. Alhamdulillah only Allah can save you. If you were raised in an atheist family, or had a religious background, whatever it is that led you away from God, Allah understands.

You don't have to become a Muslim, as it is quite difficult. Just understand that there is only Allah. No children or equals. Live with God and good deeds in your heart and you will have a place in Paradise.

I'm not saying any of you were like me, I needed to be saved and Mashallah. (God has willed it)
Posted by: MI Yayo

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/07/23 07:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Chubby
There is only Allah. Jesus is not God, the holy spirit is not God. Without Allah there is no strength. Alhamdulillah only Allah can save you. If you were raised in an atheist family, or had a religious background, whatever it is that led you away from God, Allah understands.

You don't have to become a Muslim, as it is quite difficult. Just understand that there is only Allah. No children or equals. Live with God and good deeds in your heart and you will have a place in Paradise.

I'm not saying any of you were like me, I needed to be saved and Mashallah. (God has willed it)


Muhammed can't be trusted. old man a kiddy diddler. married a toddler. tries to pass out virgins to kamikaze pilots in the afterlife.

#MAGA

p.s. I believe in God but I don't believe in text books.
Posted by: Zakariya

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/07/23 08:17 PM

Then you believe in Allah. There is only Allah and none is worthy of worship except Allah. Believing in God and living with good deeds in your heart is enough. I don't know you but I used to have a similar opinion. Allah saves who he wills.
Posted by: MI Yayo

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 07/08/23 02:50 PM

Amen brother. As-salamu alaykum.
Posted by: Mr. Judo

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 09/18/23 03:24 PM

How did Allah save you chubby? What has changed in your life?
Posted by: Ahhhhhh

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/17/23 11:42 AM

Allah sure hasn't helped the Palestinians.
Posted by: Zakariya

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 10/21/23 04:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Mister Judo
How did Allah save you chubby? What has changed in your life?


Allah healed my heart and my mind. Sadly I did too much damage to myself over the years. In Feb 2023 I had a dentist put in a metal filling but I didn't realize it. Its up to me and help from everyone to save me now. Please help if you can.

https://gofund.me/1f12920e
Posted by: TC

Re: Politics, Paranormal, Points of View, Ponderings. - 11/02/23 01:42 PM

maybe the dentist put something else in too....