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#507697 - 01/19/21 03:32 AM So this game makes no sense correct?
Krispyknees


Registered: 12/29/20
Posts: 2
Twice now I've accepted fights against a guy that has less than half of my stat for their chosen fighting style, I accepted and chose the same style bc why wouldn't I win? Each time I lost, a guy with like 20 bjj subbed my guy that had 60 this entire game sucks balls, how in the fuck does it even work? There's no sense of fundamental design that was thought out.

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#507698 - 01/19/21 03:41 AM Re: So this game makes no sense correct? [Re: Krispyknees]
SbrbnHstlr


Registered: 03/01/09
Posts: 237
Welcome to the forums!

You can link the fight in question snd I may be able to then provide more insight for you.

Going off the info you have provided;
Recruits have individual abilities that are assigned randomly when you recruit them. These include but are not limited to:
Submission Offence
Submission Defence

Knockout Offence.
Knockout Defence.


So even if you have a fighter who has a perfect build for the style but has bad submission defense, who faces a fighter with great offense it can negate the stats your fighter carries.
Again, i may be able to explain better if you link the fight in question.

Hope it helps, you made the right choice by asking about it on the forums. Theres a lot of information around here.
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#507699 - 01/19/21 03:53 AM Re: So this game makes no sense correct? [Re: SbrbnHstlr]
Trite



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#507700 - 01/19/21 04:25 AM Re: So this game makes no sense correct? [Re: Trite]
ulithebison


Registered: 03/30/20
Posts: 403
Loc: Germany
Welcome to the forums.

First of all, it is very good that you have registered in the forum and asked a question. I can only recommend that you read the Game Tips on the game homepage.
http://www.mmarmy.com/tutorial.php
EDIT:
You can find it also here:
http://www.mmarmy.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=476725#Post476725


Unfortunately, it is not as simple as you imagine. wink
Like SbrbnHstlr and Trite already said: there different type hiddens.

Maybe your fighter has very good stats in JJ, but his Sub Offense (Hidden) is just not good enough to beat an opponent with good Sub Defense (Hidden). Therefore, your fighter may lose.
Here is a list of all Hiddens:
http://www.mmarmy.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=457100#Post457100

Looking at the big picture, this game is about the management and interaction of stat builds, style match ups, and hiddens.

Again, I encourage you to read the tutorial on the main page of the game.






Edited by ulithebison (01/19/21 04:36 AM)
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#507702 - 01/19/21 06:28 AM Re: So this game makes no sense correct? [Re: Krispyknees]
Smooth Jesus


Registered: 01/23/17
Posts: 497
Originally Posted By: Krispyknees
Twice now I've accepted fights against a guy that has less than half of my stat for their chosen fighting style, I accepted and chose the same style bc why wouldn't I win? Each time I lost, a guy with like 20 bjj subbed my guy that had 60 this entire game sucks balls, how in the fuck does it even work? There's no sense of fundamental design that was thought out.


You HAVE to meet this guy named Chubby. You will get along famously.
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#507704 - 01/19/21 08:45 AM Re: So this game makes no sense correct? [Re: SbrbnHstlr]
Krispyknees


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#507705 - 01/19/21 09:01 AM Re: So this game makes no sense correct? [Re: Krispyknees]
BlimBlapZing


Registered: 05/20/14
Posts: 5644
Your figher has better stats. However, winner of a fight is roughly these combined, each with their own percentage weight on the fight -
Stats
Fighter weight (equal in this case)
Hiddens (goes beyond KO and subs, even if everything else the same some fighters are better than others. Lot of people cut the worst fighters in their camps and build the same long term for this reason)
Finishing
Style interraction (same in this case but we don't know the secondary styles. Fighters can switch to secondary after a lost round)
Random (there is a random roll as a factor in fights too, this is so that same fighter/stat combos do not always return same results. Randomness is not a huge factor as there are fighters who are just beasts 99% of the time, but it is a factor)


Edited by BlimBlapZing (01/19/21 09:04 AM)
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#507706 - 01/19/21 09:03 AM Re: So this game makes no sense correct? [Re: Krispyknees]
Jarnoh



Registered: 04/01/09
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Your guy is very light for a HW, which is a factor too.

Edit: Blim was faster.


Edited by Jarnoh (01/19/21 09:04 AM)
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#507707 - 01/19/21 09:18 AM Re: So this game makes no sense correct? [Re: Jarnoh]
Spidey


Registered: 02/28/10
Posts: 6134
Loc: Ohio
As many have already said,there are so many factors that go in to a fight outcome. Yes by looking at stats you should have won that fight there will be many more where you win and you shouldn't.Got to take the good and the bad. Just keep training your guys and learn the matchups. There are plenty of threads that go through the different hidden.
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#507710 - 01/19/21 10:03 AM Re: So this game makes no sense correct? [Re: Spidey]
Blackbeard


Registered: 01/17/21
Posts: 8
Loc: Florida
I can no longer see other fighters stats. Also my equipment has nothing in it. Any ideas why these things have gone away? I already stink in this game and taking those few things makes it even worse...

Going along like I have been on and off for the past 11 years isn't going to even out or improve my horrible 3310-4328 record. lol Any ideas?

With the equipment being gone makes money be worthless in reality. thanks.
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