(New) Feeder Thread - Report them here

Hey Gang. I removed the old thread as it was long and unruly. (I did check them all since my last ban frenzy, and banned accordingly).

If you notice feeders post a link to their camp page.

I'll check this thread every so often and ban accordingly.

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=47963

Red devil mma camp
feeds on like 12 others at least.

sour apples is feeding breaking bones....or at least it appears that way

Ioono if he feeds but seems fishy

Free Fight Team

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=14788


Henriks Camp (this one is feeding the camp he feeds from also names his guys PVT)
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=47093

He's not feeding as far as I can tell. If your clue is that is the common use of PVT in the names, then you should know that (as far as I understand) PVT is a Brazilian MMA forum known as Portal Vale Tudo. I think several of them put that as their nicknames to spot each other.

I could be mistaken about this, but from my evidence, I can't pin him as a feeder. It has happened on a rare occasion with him, but it is WELL below the limit I permit.

I won't investigate unless people post the links to the camp.

yeah ytsejam is a part of that forum, and he was an active irc visitor and he told us that there are a group of up to 15+ members that play the game. it may seem like they are feeding but i doubt they are.

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=554621

this guy fought the same MMArtist 4 times in 5 resets....

thing is, he's a great fighter and doesn't have to win that way...

please mkick get rid of this clown http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=43323

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=49519
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=49658

Def feeding camp. He has a bunch of camps he feeds off of
that are just random letters i.e. dsdf, dsjdfs

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=50904

This guy: http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=552736
This camp: http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=48715
And any camps associated with his IP (there's too many to list)

Here's one:

http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=552675

Pretty sure you should check this guy out too: http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=49886

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=572866

from this camp
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=49265

feeding from 2-3 camps.

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=586429

He really loves those MMArtists.

What I sent earlier:

I found you a feeder camp, Kick - the name's Canadian Top Brawl. This other camp, Big Dawg MMA, pretty much proves it:
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=51070

Notice how every active (0-1) fighter has lost to a CTB fighter. That's also true for the one retired (0-2) fighter.

CTB's active record is littered with these types of camps:

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=50715
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=51246
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=51991

I could go on and list more, but you get the idea.

Another feeder

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=50470

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=593650

Feeding on

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=50675

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=51124

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=37536

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=37536

is feeding for

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=44872

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=50470


here is a obvious fighter he is feeding = http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=584010

feeding from these camps =
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=50675
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=51124
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=592322

hahaha...good find rob


its not like he is trying to hide it either

Here's a guy that should be checked out:

http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=587528

In the same circle i just posted Phil but yea involved

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=50470


seeing all of the comments on his camp page i assume he is already here in this thread

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=52739

Need I say more?

hahaha. yeah, i just saw that guy in an org and ran here to post.

at least he's honest about it...

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=49265

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=50973
Is feeding
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=51193
and
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=600754

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=584065

Pinard Team and Pride Team are holding Socat LHW Hostage

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=586407

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=575754

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=52328
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=52329
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=51076
There are at least 3 or more other then those and they feed

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=53073
and
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=51633

Camp Jenicyde

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=52795

feeds off camps:
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=53721
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=53150

probably more.

Last Call
http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=575168

feeding of of

MMA Generation
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=48667
Ver2
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=48753
fhsdfhdsjl
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=32934

and several other smaller camps

INternational Camp
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=54360
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=613036


Feeding on United Fighters
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=54398

Jenicyde
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=52795

feeding from:
Try Not To Die
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=53150



Also you should run this guy through: http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=51821

NJ martial arts

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=54196

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=625827

Smashdown Gym
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=52859

Feeding Off
KO KINGS CAMP
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=52823
http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=597864

And the global gym.

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=50470

umm - feeding himself a title shot?? "It's OK to do it once in a while" on some other guy's page...

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=53433

plus I just don't like the guy if you can't tell

he seems to fight the same guys frequently

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=633544


2 of 3 fights

lakernation vs bluntnation.....didnt look at any other fighters so maybe i am wrong

but a 170lb guy fighting in lhw raised a red flag for me

Definitely a feeder. Half of his wins are against mmartists from his other "Boxing Camps"

BWAHAHA this is the guy that can crushed Shoguns 0-0 guy for the LOGO title yesterday.

Shady play all around I guess

he's a moron. He deleted all the post war on our home pages as did I - but he seems to deplore anything that resembles fair play or etiquette.

Can we dump this guy please?

http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=3374085
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=3363403
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=3370825
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=3371927

pretty obvious...

Why is this guy not already gone?

just dropped the guy a msg on his camp page, since i didnt see anyone do it already, hopefully he takes it seriously enough to login to the forums to read the rules.

He has been told by me at least

he deleted them


I suspect that from reading the comments I am not the only one

^^ oh.. well in that case, yes,, mkick should be pmed about him. with the camp links and stuff so he can run his program on the IP's and ban him if he still wont recognize another warning

He for sure reads the forum and should know better because in the general game discussion under the topic "hey people I just wanted to share this with you all" a guy says he is flaming about losing his title to him and the guy he challanged was 0-0 at the time...then he posts stuff on the guy's wall about what he is saying in the forum

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=61082

so the guy has read at least that topic on the forum

^^ i will PM this to mkick, as that is not just feeding but abuse lol. Thanks for pointing this out TLP

Alright, I'm here now, and yes, I read everything said about me; however, it's not like a lot of you make it out to be. After the match with ShogunHua, he kept on going to my page to bash it, but you don't see it because I deleted all the comments, and yet, everybody assumes I was the one "flaming," while he's just faking it while trying to make himself look like a badass on the internet at the same time. What happened after the match was I just went to the guys' page and even said congratulations, but when I returned to my homepage, there was a message from him that read, "Thanks for the belt sucker," and every time he won a match against anybody, he kept on going to my profile and posting, "2-0 baby," "3-0 baby," and so on and so on. He even posted stuff like, "Take back yo chump change, n!ggah!" among other comments, but you get the point. The fact is he was being the asshole the whole time while I tried to even be nice about it at first, hence the congrats message on his guy's page, but he decided to be an immature dick about it, posting comments and even the forum link to him bragging on many of my pages, so everything that you see on his page is simply a response. I wasn't flaming nor was I mad about it, I rather found it funny that he so much prided himself on being a keyboard warrior. I was the one who later decided to do the mature thing about it, be the better man, not respond to him on his page anymore, and delete everything he posted and kept on posting on the wall, yet he's the one who still keeps posting about it on this forum and on my page (I restricted him), and even saying on here in his bragging thread, "How about everyone go on his team home and write Can Crusher im sure he would be happy about that ,)" That proves what kind of person he is - immature and nothing more than a keyboard warrior. This is just a post to clarify all the assumptions, as I don't plan to argue about it (I have better things to do), which I'm sure ShogunHua would just love. He can write what he wants after this, I don't care. Fact is, he was the one who always wanted to start something, whether it be on a camp change or on a forum topic. On his profile when I told him to eff of my page, it was my last response to him posting crap on my page.

As for the Big Ace guy, yeah, we had a few of our own arguments flowing on our pages as well, but that was a long time ago, I stopped a long time ago because he kept on arguing with me over nothing and I was getting tired of it, and never mentioned it since because I don't care and I simply don't need that type of crap on my page. I've moved on to better things, I don't know why he needs to a grudge over the net, so hey, it's cool, I don't care, like I said.

"If you're not familiar with the term, feeding is when you create several accounts and challenge fighters from those camps against one another. If this is done on a very rare occasion, it is not an issue. However, feeding is against the rules as it pads fighters records, and increases funds for a camp unfairly. Challenging people that share the same computer or network can also result in flagging your camp as a feeder, however if you're not fighting them too often you have nothing to worry about. This comes down more to common sense than anything." That's what it says on the "rules" page of the game. I don't have a high feeding percentage, so if it says if you don't do it that often you won't be banned, then why should I be? Like I said, I didn't feed that often, most of my wins were legit over other camps, so as far as the rules say, I logically thought I'd be safe, but if for some reason I get banned because all of you want me banned, it's cool, my feelings won't be hurt, I'm just saying I did follow the rules because of how they were stated. Meh, whatever, if I don't get banned, I won't fight any of my guys. This is not sucking up to not get banned, I'm just saying that if I don't get banned, I won't fight any of my guys even though it says you can sometimes in the rules, since everybody gets so sensitive about it. I never wanted any childish arguments spread on my page, hence me deleting them, I just wanted to play a game for fun is all, it's not that serious.

Apparently, giving 0-0 guys title shots is a glitch and knowingly taking advantage of glitches is against the rules. I simply didn't know it was a glitch. If I was allowed to challenge them, I thought I was allowed to challenge them, so I didn't knowingly take advantage of a glitch. I won't defend against 0-0 guys then. That is, if I don't get banned, seeing as how I am so unpopular amongst my e-haters. It's cool. It's just a game, and even though I find it funny how some of you like to bash me, I don't need all this publicity, guys. lol

One last thing. Crippler, thank you for taking a rather helpful approach to this rather being an asshole about it like some other people. Nobody "informed" me like they said, they just bashed me and posted shit on my page, but you were actually being professional about it and I can appreciate that, so thank you, I respect that you can approach something in a sophisticated way rather than spam up my page full of hate comments like others did.

Bottom line - If I don't get banned I want to play this game for fun, I'm not going to defend against 0-0 guys (that was a misunderstanding), I'm not going to feed even rarely like I did even though it said it was okay to do in the rules, and most importantly, I surely don't want to argue, I have better things on my mind.

^^ no worries stan.

But yeah you did bring up a good point about how the rules are stated, and it may actually need to be re-worded to prevent any confusion.

Feeding is against the rules, and what mkicks program does is calculates the % of how often the same IP fights each other, and myself or any of the other mods he may ask to look deeper into each fight just to see if it is feeding, or just a case of say friends/relatives/college roomates etc etc just playing each other before he does take the step to banning the IP.

as far as the flaming and arguing, you guys do have the option to restrict camps from posting on your page, so that might be another good step to avoid any unnecessary back and forth bickering.

I would suggest not to fight your own camps though, as it really gains nothing but people pointing it out and branding you as a "feeder". If you need help with styles, training, what beats what, etc etc there are a few help threads up, or just start threads in general help as we have a good majority of players who do help alot.
I know some people used it to learn/test styles so your not the first new player to have fought their own camp.

Stan my point was that you do read the forum, I wasn't judging your back and forth with Shogun, we all get into one thing or another at sometime with someone. The only reason why I mentioned anything is because you are feeding or at least was feeding and it is hugely frounded on. I am sure if the feeding stops you will be ok in most peoples eyes.

well hopefully "to be fair and balanced" he gets the full system treatment....right?


because he was indeed told about feeding being wrong whether he will admit it or not

and continued to do it

which makes him no different than system unless you want to say "well he did it longer"


right

^ It's cool, TLP, it was a general response to everyone judging me, crapping up my page, and calling me shit on the forums with their assumptions, it wasn't aimed at you, but there was more than one person who did so.



Yeah, man, I'll be very careful not to do anything that causes immature comments on my page, that was never my intention. I just want to play this game for fun. Thanks for being reasonable and having a good approach towards this once again, I didn't see that from many other people. By the way, Crippler, this doesn't concern this topic, but can I talk to you about something in PM? I PMed mkick a couple days ago about it, but I never got a response.

sure send the PM stan

^ I sent the PM, Crippler, it's titled The Thing I Wanted to Talk About. Thanks, man.



You misconceived what I was saying, migrantworkers, I was saying that while the rules said (Crippler said they need to be reworded as it appears) it was okay to do it sometimes, yet I was getting all these hate comments being called many names. I was never informed in a sophisticated way about it before Crippler informed me. Sure, they called me a feeder or a cheater, and that's what you may call informing me, but they were just random people being immature and calling me names. Crippler was the first one to actually take a reasonable approach towards it and actually inform me how it really is and that the rules need to be re-worded.

i didnt do it that way

i dont know how flowerly crippler messaged you


i pretty much said "you need to stop feeding...fighting your own camps is greatly frowned upon...go visit the forum"


would be interesting for mkick to post the "scoring" on your camps


ultimately i hope you have changed your mind about doing it




but it still doesnt excuse the way you chose some style matchups and things of that nature....does it?

if he hasnt deleted it on his camp page then you can see for yourself what i messaged him lol.

As far as verdict, he has been given the thumbs up, wont release any numbers as i think that is only for mkicks program.

"nothing" was your repeated attempts to can crush/style rape with your WAAAYYYY lower ranked and WAYYYYYY lower fighter ID GPer against my PGer. I coureously denied your one-sided challenge twice before I told your fighter to find another fight the third time when you kept challenging me. I tried to direct you to the forums to read about honorable play and even gave you Hec's stickied fair play thread to read about so you wouldn't get yourself into the situation in which you find yourself.

I don't "hold grudges". I just don't have respect for people who play the game like you. I'm sure I would get over it quickly if you weren't:

1) Feeding. Yeah you don't feed enough to justify banning in Mkick's program - but feeding yourself titles?? Surely this isn't the intent (or common sense if you will) of being allowed to fight your own camps. Feeding was never in the equation with our little squabble - but finding out you did it re-enforced my opinion and somehow lowered my respect even more.

2) Flaming. Despite my attempts to assist, I get called things such as "pussy" and "loser" and told to "get a life, it's just a game". Even in your defense of Shogun calling you a flamer you call him such timeless classics as "immature dick", and "badass on the internet".

3) Can crushing - see above - enough said. I woulda just left it if you didn't keep challenging me - but somehow you must think that challenging me repeatedly would magically co-erce me into pushing the accept button?? I don't know. I don't think being annoying gives you the telekinetic powers to push accept.

I guess in all I just don't see what you have to add to the MMArmy community. Probably nothing. I don't know how that is fun for you - but whatever. It's your team. You can be free to win all the Ring Rage championships you want. But ask any coach here - 100,000 Ring Rage straps means nothing in credibility compared to 1 EFC strap - which you'll never get because no one will give you the shot.

GOOD LUCK AND WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY!!!

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=613036

haha

Here we go again, it's always something with you. You'll never get enough, will you? lol

Okay, first of all, you were being an asshole talking about "fair play" after I kept challenging you (there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, I was trying to get a fight since you were online, so yes, it is over "nothing," but hell, you were even one of those guys that called me a can crusher), and yeah, at the time, I was still relatively new to the game (maybe you can consider me relatively new right now), but you weren't like, "Hey, man, you should check out the forums, they have some really good pointers." No. Instead, you were dissing my camp and putting it down, and on top of that, put a link up in the middle of it to make you seem wise on my page. Good job.

Second, what situation? You just stated yourself that I don't feed that often. I only did sometimes because the rules said it was okay, not just me stating that on a random guy's page like you claimed. Crippler stated that the rules need to be re-worded and didn't bash me like you guys did, he actually took a sophisticated approach towards it and was the only one to inform me in a professional way without bashing my page or talking shit about me on the forums. You're the one who started shit about me again in this thread, saying, "he's a moron. He deleted all the post war on our home pages as did I - but he seems to deplore anything that resembles fair play or etiquette. Can we dump this guy please?" You begged me to be "dumped" then and now you're even saying that I didn't do enough to be banned, so what's your point? I guess it's just because, like you said, "plus I just don't like the guy if you can't tell," which is fine, because like I said, I just don't care. I was the one who stopped arguing over your started bullshit a long time ago and just deleted the stuff off my page, yet a couple months later you keep coming back to it on these forums, where I wasn't even registered at the time when you kept coming back to it. You started, once again, this time on the forums, calling me crap on the such as "moron" when I wasn't even registered on the forums, yet you mention me referring to Shogun as a "badass on the internet," which you assumed was for Shogun calling me a flamer, but you don't even know what happened, you weren't there, so it is just that - an assumption from your side. I said he was being an "immature dick" and a "badass on the internet" because he kept going to my page every time he won a match against anybody and kept posting, "2-0 baby," "3-0 baby" and constant shit like that, as well as even once referring to me as "n!ggah," among other stuff. When he won the title, I first congratulated him on his page, but he's the one who started flaming with, "Thanks for the belt sucker," and constantly returning to my page to post immature comments. If you took the time to read my first post, I wouldn't have had to repeat myself on that and clarify your ignorant assumption, but anyways, back to your beef. If you keep getting mad over me in a game from something that much back it's not healthy, and yes, I hate to break it to you, but it is a game, so the fact that you "lost respect" for me over a game on the internet doesn't hurt my feelings like it apparently does yours since you obviously take me way too personally. The only "situation" in which I "find myself" is guys like you constantly either posting stupid shit on my page, and after that, on the forums. Seriously, dude, you should finally get over it and find a new hobby, although if you want to keep disliking me, that's fine, too, I don't care, like I said.

Thirdly, as I said before, I came to play this game for fun, that's what it is for, what am I supposed to "add" to it? I just want to play it, which I am doing, but apparently, someone has to be all over my dick about something, or even nothing. Crippler, as a good mod, clarified it professionally. He said that the rules need to be re-worded when I pasted the example of it saying it was okay and that's that. I said I wasn't going to fight 0-0 guys for the title and that I wasn't going to fight myself since the rules weren't written accurately, saying it was okay sometimes, so what now? I said it's done. On the other hand, picking fights against other guys from other camps that are smart has nothing wrong with it, you can give me all the crap about it that you want, but it doesn't change a thing. The only reason I registered on the forum was to clarify the crap that kept on being posted on me, so I don't know what I should "add" to it like you claimed, since I just want to play this game for fun, yet someone has to always start shit. I don't care what Ring Rage titles mean to you, it's just fun for me to be able to get as many fights as possible to have more playing options so I can play the game and have fun. Thank you and have a nice day.

Wow that is the longest response I never read

And that's fine, nobody has to read it. Everybody can keep assuming what they want.

I read it, it seems very logical, hopefully all the drama shall stop.

Stan it was just to much for me and I said my peace about you stop feeding, you said you did so I am good, I just didn't need to read your drama between with someone else. It was a joke buddy that was all

stan has to know crippler in the real world


no way that someone could like his internet personna

he doesnt have to no me in real life to know i will tell him whats on my mind or what information i was given regarding his "feeding".

he feeds, its obvious, but to mkick and his program its not enough to the extent system did, its just unfortunate system squeezed by and didnt get banned.

as far as liking peoples internet persona's, your one to talk? lols. you guys dont have to like him, you guys can ignore him, you guys can restrict him, instead of like lil kids trying to prove who has the best keyboard strokes on here.

just because mkick didnt feel he fed enough to be banned doesnt mean you guys cant restrict him from title shots and what not, but you can control if you want to keep going back and forth with him in a war of words lol. just dont do it in this thread. take it on PM or each others camp/fighter pages. simple as that.

crip ^^^^


why so serious?


my timeline here

a) saw this topic a while back and posted on the guys page

b) forgot all about it

c) noticed traffic in the topic

d) posted my thoughts

e) moved on given his comments and what appears to be a new direction

f) took a light hearted jab at you

g) go visit your physician...i thank you might have stage 1 of sandyvaginitis syndrome


editing this so that crip can continue to post stuff that has nothing to do with feeding while he tells me to stop posting out of topic




EDIT:
maybe if you actually stayed on topic. we wouldnt even have gotten this far huh mig? thanks for the PM just to see this "EDIT" of yours lol.

dude you got upset just because i said aside fistk,geleman, zo, and decom, everyone else in dba was insignificant to me because i rarely even fight them lol.

im just letting you know that your jabs need a lil more oooomph to it.

but seriously though, READ the title of this thread. if its not related (just like your last 10 posts) dont post here, PM me or whatever fits your fancy to throw "jabs". you seem to try and hijack threads just to get attn as of late, please respect this thread as just for posting feeder camp/fighter links. thanks.

Damn that's wayyy too much time to read that. You win. I'm lazy.

What?

fought his camp X amount of times, but clearly not to the % system did or any other feeders did to constitute a ban. clear enough?

Time to start feeding 9.99% of the time so I can get win-streaks to win GLORY belts.

BOOM SHAKALAKA

My question wasn't looking for an explanation of what you said, I was asking how there could be an allowable amount of feeding? I thought if you were found to be feeding, warned about it, continued to feed knowing that it was against the rules, you would get banned. How can there be an allowable amount of feeding and why does it have anything to do with how much System fed or any other feeder? Everybody knows System clearly fed after the new rules were instated and MKick didn't ban him, now he has an allowable amount of feeding, he clearly doesn't give a shit about people cheating.

^^ I think where mkick is coming from is, say 2 guys that go to college play this game, and they only access the internet on campus. If by even 1 ip is registered to fight each other then they would be banned. What if my roomate played? or say Team 7 eleven and i played at work? we cant fight each other then.

that is where i think the % of feeding is taken into account. He doesnt want to ban anyone that is NOT feeding intentionally due to circumstances such as work or school, or being in the same household.

i think that is what your not understanding.

OK, that makes sense. Sorry.

the difference though is that this guy has made 2 camps and is fighting against each other. in certain/special circumstances like this Mkick should make his own call, if he feeds 5% of the time, well thats just 5% too much.

i get the roomate thing and work thing. but this is a case that he is clearly fighting himself and if im not mistaken for title shots. that is just inexcusable, and there is just no excuse that can be given for it to make any sense.

running #'s to check % of feeding is fine and makes sense. but when we as a community show this type of evidence on the matter, there is really no reason something more cant be done.

^^ How about PMing Mkick? let him know why you think he should be banned then? It really doesnt help to keep getting upset about it if people dont stand up and say something about it right?

if this guy is a new player then try to educate him, if he doesnt listen then bring it up to mkick. again i clicked on his camp link and didnt see any msgs from anyone saying feeding is against the rules, so all i can do is take the steps i would take and thats to first educate the new player, if he continues to feed, have mkick be made aware and give him the proper warning, and if he still continues to do it then its up to mkick to ban him or not.

seriously guys its not that difficult to follow how to go about a feeder.
its not fair to say mkick doesnt care about people cheating as he has banned camps before.

plus 1000000000 Crip

i wont be pm'ing mkick about it. he reads the forums and the threads, he eventually will read this if he hasnt already. also whos to say someone has pm'ed him about it. you are making the assumption that no one has pm'ed him or that no one had wrote on his page.

regardless, whats this thread for then...post feeders but if its bad enough pm mkick?? kind of defeats itself right?

very first post of this new thread created by Mkick himself. so that tells me, no PM is needed. he will read this and should make the right decision!



also make no mistake im not upset about it, just think a simple of its the % isnt right in this case. i saw what you (crip) posted and fully agree, but i feel this is obviously a different circumstance.

.

this thread is to point out the FEEDERS, how many new players do you see feed off the start? if no one tells them its wrong, then they will keep doing it. as many people complain about lack of players, everyone sure is quick to ban people. NOT all people read the forums, for the first month i played i dont think i read one thing from the forums. so if i was feeding that first 2-3 weeks, and no one tells me to stop, why would i?

again, the numbers i was shown of him "feeding" was so minimal you guys really wouldnt believe it.

mkicks program does not run automatially, he has to run it manually. So what do you guys want from the guy? stop making updates that you all cry for, and instead run every link that is posted on here instead?

PMing him will let mkick know that its a serious enough case that he may have to take action on it, other than that its up to the community to educate new players about rules and the do's and dont's.

again if you feel like HE has to be banned then make your case to it to mkick, it isnt that hard to PM him.

this thread is to point out feeders that HE will look at from time to time and run numbers. Migrant has said that he wrote on dudes page before, quick to ban people? if he continues to do things that arent right then yes he should be banned. you delete all posts from your fighters pages and camps right, well can he not do the same?

if he has time to show you his numbers for "feeding" then he has time to say "hey guys, hes not bad, very minimal, drop it" right??

and lucky for you, you get to see the numbers. we dont, so lets not forget that you have information that is not shared with the community, so to you they are low % but to us he is feeding.

my point was more about the post of well it could be roomates and co-workers, when this obviously wasnt the case. if he was told and kept/keeps doing it. then yes he should be banned.

and whos crying? you are stating your opinion, im stating mine. to say we/i am crying about banning would be the same as me saying you are crying about us asking why nothings been done. i know it doesnt run itself. and no he shouldnt run for every link posted but running every 2 weeks shouldnt be too much to ask regardless of 1 link posted of 40.

and again WE shouldnt have to PM Mkick when he clearly states to post in here and he will check from time to time. HE doesnt want to babysit us and WE dont want to babysit him.

i cant say if mig did or not can i? all I KNOW is i clicked his camp link and there were no messages on his camp page.

I happen to msg him and then that guy came on here and said his peace.

Has he continued to feed since i msgd him warning him it is against the rules and is a bannable offense?

Anyone can leave anyone a message saying Feeding is frowned upon, but unless it is CLEARLY stated it is against the rules and can result in that player being banned, then maybe he didnt take migs or anyone elses post seriously enough to stop or even post his side on the forums.

From where i see it, i gave him my warning, gave him the consequences if he continues to feed, sent mkick the info of his camps and he ran his report, and based on the numbers it wasnt a high % at this point, mkick probably decided that he could be just a new guy just learning the rules so giving him the benefit of the doubt is not a bad thing. It will allow a new player to conform to playing "the right way" and if he continues to feed and gets pointed out for it then let mkick at that point decide if he should get banned or not.

Unless the whole community is in agreement that at the first sign of feeding to ban that IP right away is the best thing for the game instead of possibly just educating them and getting a larger community in-game and in the forums, then maybe you guys can lynch out the new players and just ban them off the bat here then by all means go ahead and take that approach, i rather give people a 2nd chance, especially if they are a new camp/player, to learn and adjust and let them decide for themselves if they want to get banned or not.

Its not about luck tes that i saw the numbers, did you ever think maybe if you PMed mkick, he may provide you with the information also just to set your mind at ease?

dude you guys act like its a sin to PM mkick about certain things. I know he is a busy man, but if its a big enough deal that can affect the forum or his game or hurt either in any way im sure mkick will address it.

Guys come on...I think we can all agree that Stan was feeding too much. Mkick just meant if an occasional buddy using the same computer wanted to fight each other it was fine and Stand was doing more than that which was wrong.

BUT, he is also new and has said he won't do it anymore. Let's not take im at his word and welcome him aboard please. We all know he has seen this thread now so if he does it again it will be a different story.

Until then let's drop this incident and welcome him to the community.

Thanks

crip why do you keep "wondering" or "questioning" as to whether i ever left a note on the guys page?

seriously


i could have sworn that mkick made one of the things that new players go through is reading something about fighting your own camps being a bannable offense

so

if we players go out of our way to come and report feeders as we find them in the manner that we have been instructed to do so:

1) why should we pm mkick? especially when we are too busy crying for updates

2) go post on the guys page that he is breaking rules that he has already been informed about when he signs up (my understanding)

2a) if it isnt the case that you have to read that when you are making your camp then it should be....like a terms of agreement that nobody reads....but if you dont, too damned bad


xoxoxoxo

Suggesting that we should be PMing Mkick about feeders is nuts.

i wasnt questioning if you left a note or not, i guess i couldve worded it better, I meant to say is, i cant say for sure if in your post, you told stan also, that it is against the rules and is a bannable offense.

If you just said for example, "its frowned upon", stan might have not taken it seriously because he didnt reply to you, and just deleted your post.

So i can only go by MY post, where i told him its illegal and a bannable offense, and he seem to take it serious enough to post his side of the story here in the forums regarding the wording of the rules as to feeding or not feeding.

Stan read the rules as so long as he wasnt doing it every fight, then it was ok to fight your own camps. That is where the issue lies.

He said after my post and explanation he would stop feeding, if you guys think that is a bad thing that a new player is now aware of a bannable offense, and says he will stop fighting his own camps then i really have nothing more to say in this thread, ill just let you guys get all pissy at him.

it is certainly not a bad thing that you have educated him at all

and hopefully he means what he says because he seems like a fairly intelligent guy...and we all know that we could use a few of those around here


i think the resistance you are getting in this issue (and confined to this issue...at least for me) is due to the way you are kind of talking down to people about this topic

of course it is difficult to detect implied tone of voice but your wording and words just kind of comes off as bossy and know it allish

in this topic

then just read Fistk's post.
same thing i want to happen only he worded it better and alot nicer.

Here is the end all be all to this situation with Stan.

(I have not read through this whole thread... too much to sift through, but I'm pretty sure I have an understanding.)

Stan... stop feeding. I've adjusted the rules to reflect some issues, and I'm not going to retroactively hold you accountable for them. At the same time, your feeding percentages are not at the line where I automatically ban someone. However, I've noticed that it has increased (since I last checked some time ago), and it is getting close to that point where I would give myself the option.

I'm asking politely that you stop, not only for your account, but to make my day a little easier as far as keeping a pleasant community.

As for everyone else, leave it be. I'll take care of it.

team Deker
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=28942

feeding off of teamowen
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=28445

Hasn't reached epic proportions, but pretty evident what he's up to.

for the benefit of the court....please define "epic"


just because i dont know what it means doesnt mean i am lying

Here's some who I feel like could be feeding and at the very least, style raping:

http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=676179

1. epic


Being unusually large, powerful or wonderful. On a grander scale than the modified word would otherwise imply. Popular synonyms: Massive, Huge, Incredible, Awesome

"Sasha just gave me an epic blowjob"

can you run this camp.

44-0 active recrod and 95-14 overall
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=54916

teshore I ran into that guy a couple of days ago and I challenged him to a fight I thought I would win he accepted and his fighter won. Not saying he is not feeding but he did take a fight from me when he was the underdog

http://mmarmy.net/camp_display.php?id=62070

Not 100% sure about this camp. It might be a family thing about fighting eachother on this game due to the comments on the front page. I noticed because of this fighter:

http://mmarmy.net/fighter_display_record.php?id=680566

The style match ups and multiple opponents alarmed me. Thoughts?

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=671345

look at who he has fought

look at the weights

new jersey martial arts seems to be part of the plan

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=680566

Same guy I posted 2 posts earlier.

It seems as though feeders are getting more creative and creating a lot more camps to feed off of.

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=686661

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=36772

He has a guy that is 7-0 who is not only fighting feeder camps, but the same guys.

I am pretty sure that that camp is also linked to this camp.
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=37205

Going through some of the records I noticed a camp named ROLLS01. He feeds off of a few different camps. These feeders are stepping up their game.

Is there anything we can do about the "Rolls" camps? I know he has alot of other camps, and the camp names are ALL CAPS and usually something along the lines of portuguese.

Wow, that guy with the IDIOTAS camp is gonna feed himself to the EFC.....

Slap Boxe http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=66195
feeding off

team afterglow http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=66202

Very early in the feeding process as they are both new camps, but it's obvious.

Idiotas is part of Mega Drive and The Roll camps

I left him a warning that it could get him banned and he restricted me and left me a message in my home page telling me to suck his dick.

PM Mkick.

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=36740
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=36854
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=36756
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=36753
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=36741
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=36820
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=36772
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=36852
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=36762
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=37175
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=36720
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=37205

All part of one big feeding network.

Damn good job beast one of them clowns almost got a title shot from me in a small org

I think you need to PM Mkick when you find clear stuff like that.

Holy shit Beast good work, I have a hard enough times with my camps let alone spotting feeders

LOOK MY FIGHTERS, OR MY 2 BROTHERS FIGHTERS, OR MY 3 COUSIN FIGHTERS... LOOK IN YOURS ONE IN THE SAME LEVEL AND ASK US TO FIGHT!! STRONGERS FIGHTERS WILL RECEPT A BIG DENY!

ASK ME TO FIGHT IDIOT!

ASK ME TO FIGHT IDIOT!

ASK ME TO FIGHT IDIOT!

ANYONE WITHE TE SAME LEVEL FIGHTERS CAN ASK ME TO FIGHT!!

BRAZIL IS THE BEST FUCK THE REST!

ban please

ASK ME TO FIGHT IDIOT!

ASK ME TO FIGHT IDIOT!

ASK ME TO FIGHT IDIOT!

And here we go. This guy owns about 15 different feeder camps.

This is the infamous ROLL01-02-03-04/IDIOTAS moron.

Belly called and he wants his CAPS back

Missed one before. Lucky #13 here:

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=36693

I think that's all of them. I will PM MKick to check this thread now.

kick already pm'ed and said dude was taken care of

Its amazing that the biggest feeder in MMArmy history felt compelled to challenge people in the feeder thread.

Irony is ironic.

He learned his lesson

it may have taken a rule change to get it done, but he did

what rule change

Yes, what rule change?

Feeding wasn't always explicitly illicit.

Im pretty sure feeding was always a bannable offense.

it wasn't

Last octoberish it became bannable

Hm, my mistake then.

I wasn't even playing at that time, but I pay attention to shit. Especially when I'm the one asking the questions. Give it a try.

I think that dickhead with all those camps is back. This one is for sure.
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=36753
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=36852

Agreed madgenius, here are 2 more of...Edit: There are more.

Edit: I found another.

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=65711
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=40990
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=65717
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=65697
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=65714
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=41019
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=40992
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=40987
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=40988
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=41017
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=65902
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=65901
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=65805

Im sure there are many more, I am tired of looking for them

Feeder network:

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=50192
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=65282
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=65280
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=65841
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=64574
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=65972
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=67561 (1-49 career record)
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=66582
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=66764

I have my suspicions about others, but these are the obvious ones.

I think 1-49 is to be applauded, having that much of a loss % is actually difficult to achieve

Yes, his only win was a failed MMArtist attempt to throw a fight.

^^ Subject line

copy/pasted from hype forum




Karmamachine fighting his own camp for the title? Keep in mind he claims he was the top contender with his other camp.

The champ http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=713980

The challenger http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=718826
Take note the challenger who is karmas camp aswell has 0 wins in botb.

The real contender
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=706351
The loss is after karma fought his own guy.

Now things get a little more interesting as we due a little more digging.

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=700376
Take a look at his records, and you will see this guy.
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=705189
Notice the gnp stats. WELL not when he fights himself he decides lay and pray works best vs PG. Shit lay and pray won wtf let me switch that to 8 PTS so I can run FS. Surely that is a fair challenge.

Next up we have-
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=708017
vs.
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=716660
Notice his gnp slam it out stats? lol jk against himself he switch to the Muay Thai he has no stats for.

Now I could dig for more as I am sure there is more, but I am just trying to get the point across. That just seems very very sketchy and he doesn't think he did anything wrong fighting himself for a title. He lied saying nobody had a win when 2 guy in fact did have wins. Not only that but after being told nicely it was not a good idea he said he doesn't give a fuck he will do whatever he wants and nobody can stop him. Whats up bruh? I am not saying the guy is intentionally feeding but it is pretty sketch.

The Christian concept of reaping what you sow from Galatians 6:7 can be considered equivalent to Karma.

Looks like another feeder system has popped up:

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=71880
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=71878
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=71868
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=71877
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=71875
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=71879
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=71874

I'm sure there are more.

Deathclutch MMA Feeder-

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=67615

feeds off of royal blood camp, probably amonst others.

Are you sure their feeding, or just can crushing? Doesnt look like feeding, just picking the worse possible opponents!

hes not feeding. it appears by his page that he fights rarely and most likely takes easy fights. one of his fighters retired at 14-0. not how ide do it, but he doesnt appear to be harming anyone, or breaking the rules

Looks like Mica MMA (http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=44872) is feeding. Maybe not 100% but defeintely some. Look at this fighter: http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=736271

Fighting the camps: valasquez striking camp and superior submission fight alot. Plus no one is that good with SFTF.

Another example: http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=722778

Fighting MMA World alot here and has feed himself to title shots.

Obvious feeder that bigshow has found.
Fighters from MMA World:

http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=735968
http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=746545
http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=716869
http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=743611

They all had fought Mica MMA's guys, and I've just picked the first four that my mouse went over.

And the most obvious fact that he feeds, he even change his weight class to match them together

Ban that shithead already.

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=71217

13th Moon - http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=66255

BlackDog Dojo- http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=59793

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=19467
from
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=19107

lol

You and your Royal blood shenanigans! lol

How ironic!

william convicts http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=42211
Gyspys http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=71479
thugs till we die http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=71400
Submissions http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=71488
They are all part of a mass feeding frenzy

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=74329

im too lazy 2 post all the camps he feeds 2 but thats the main source.

wow. don't know if this guy is on here yet, but check out this guy's record

http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=733483

http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=3915891

i gave him his first loss LOL.

Okay, I complained to this guy about feeding a long time ago, and it seems he slipped through the cracks.

Canadian Top Brawl: http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=49265
0-5, all five losses to Casanova MMA.

3-23-2010 7:06 pm EST | Restrict | Delete
um... im still here, i dont know what feeding is, but ive never broken any rules. seeing as its a week later and nothings happened, i have begun to suspect that you arent very bright.

3-25-2010 4:21 pm EST | Restrict | Delete
are you dimb? the rules clearly state you can do it once in a while, go away. your dim

PLEASE, let's finally get rid of this guy! He made it eight months as an admitted feeder, and he's still doing it. Here's Casanova MMA:

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=74269

Casonova Russia MMA:
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=74281

Casanova UK:
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=74570

Canova Mexico MMA:
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=74316

All of which have the same variation on the camp owner name, "Run Train."

Here's American Top Brawl, with a 5-24 overall record and all six active losses coming to Casanova MMA fighters:

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=49559

I'm sure there are others in this network, but these are the ones I'm pretty sure of.

i am not sure that mkick is checking this thread regularly

Dunno, but I'll keep it alive anyway!

"Camp Chip Chop"
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=67511

More specifically this guy:
http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=740486

He fought Nonito Victorio more that 25 times. I've told him that feeding is against the rule, he told me to chill out and restricted me.

haha

this one has to get looked at

just noticed this tournament:
http://www.mmarmy.com/tournamentview.php?tournament_id=592
turns out all these camps are feeding off each other, most of the camps are named 'team.....'

what better way to determine which will be the master camp and which will be the slave camps?

What is the definiton of a feeder account? I was just wondering, say, hypothetically, I had 2 camps, but trained both extensively, and never fought them against each other, then one day I wanted to fight my 2 best fighters against each other. Is that classified as feeding?

Its pretty shady to do that. Usually when people want to fight their fighters against each other they wait until they retire and do a legend challenge. That is probably your best bet.

Thanks. I definitely needed to know that, as I really did not want to break the rules. Much appreciated sir.

Sorry. My mistake. Whoever saw that, the guy's most likely not a feeder. Somehow, well, I know how, but it slipped my mind that the dude's fights were all recent and therefore it's impossible for me to come to a feeding conclusion.

U R A TATTLE TALE!!!!!!!! U KNOW U USED TO FEED MY TEAM WITH YOUR RAGTAG BUNCH OF SISSIES CALLED "NO QUIT."

think your memories going belly, must be your advancing years, because i recall i was feeding off of your rubbish fighters! Your currently in your golden era right now, thanks to my training of your turds which you call fighters!

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=76791
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=778252

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=772959
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=77116
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=774360

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=77118
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=772965

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=783008
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=78206
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=783005

It's a network.

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=747646
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=4013999
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=4001839
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=4000769
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=3978095
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=3975926
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=3994746


Goaaaaal!

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=77914
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=78088
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=78339
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=77913

Consider the possibility this is a young and new player, who is having fun playing the game but isn't aware of the rule of fighting between your own camps.
Try letting people know and see what the response is, as it's been favorable with some in the past.

Ok mother

You'll probably be criticized for it, but fuck that shit. If you have two guys from different camps evenly matched and similar rankings, you should have every right to fight them.

I've played off and on for 3 years now, and I've always done this. It's not feeding when you aren't favoring one guy to win.

I don't really care if you were to fight your teams to see who would win but if you do it to either get to a title shot or in a title fight, I would consider you to be playing the game unfairly.

I should have alot more feeding for you guys to observe shortly. Stay tuned.

Hey there was once where one camp my guy was the champ and other camp my guy was undeniable #1 contender. Both of the same styles and very similar stats. The only difference was hiddens, but even than, i gave the shot to my own guy and it was a SD. Sure, either way it's a win/win but at the same time I had to see one of my fighters lose and that's never fun.

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=780347

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=780345

The former fed 11 wins to the latter all on the same two frikken' fighters.

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=791719

This guy fought the same camp ( Huskers Unite ) four times, despite only having six fights. Three of those four times were also against the same fighter.

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=53603
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=53654

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=780224

Pretty obvious.

Obvious? How is it?

He sure fought the same guy a couple of time in a row, how is this feeding? The camps to wich belong those guy seems to be legit, the guy do not always (or in majority) fight the same camp.

Before calling someone a feeder, better come with better proofs.

He makes a habit out of fighting the same guys. Three times he fought a guy going FF against PG. Four times in a row he fought a guy using MMartist, and he fought Shannon Parker three times. The guy has only had what, 15 fights? Besides, the camps in these fights have pretty similar names.

http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=4131049

Maybe you should either look further or provide more detail before you call me out for not knowing what I'm doing.

Ok. First, definition of "feeding" from the rules on the main page:



First, before calling someone a feeder, tell him on his camp page that you believe that he is a feeder and tell him to stop. By his reaction, you'll see if it is on purpose or not.

I got to agree that Deaths and Death Cluths are pretty shady, but they don't always fight the same camps. They fought each-other sometime, seems to be belonging to the same guy. But fighting each other some times is not against the rules, even if its not allowed inside the community (for good reasons). Feeder? No, but it would be good to leave a message on his camp page to remember him.

The guy he fought 4x, from camp Skull Squad. Judging by his number of fight, the fact that he invested money (to at least upload an image on his camp page) tells me that it is a serious camp. They wanted to do a couple of match agains't eachother. Or, he realised that this camp seems to be figuring out MMartist and went for easy wins. Not necesseraly the best way to play, but not agains't the rules.

He fought Squirelly Wrath twice at the beginning of his career. I had fought this camp quite a lot of time. The fact that most of his fighters and his camp are on a positive record, so aint a feeder here.

I can go on, but I think you got my point. So in conclusion, it ain't the best camps I've seen around, but I doubt it is a case of feeding.

The main goal of this long ass post is to not let this thread being flood of camp that you think are feeder before having talked to the guy or a good investigation. It is good to look for them, you already pointed some in the past that were indeed pretty obvious, but in this case, I don't think so.

Peace \m/

while its nice to notify someone on their page, its not needed. there are rules that are shown as to what is acceptable and what is not. a notification isnt needed, only nice.

the 2nd bolded part is not true what so ever. feeding is feeding period. whether you do it once a day or once a week. fighting your own 2 camps is against the rules! you put fighting each other is not against the rules if its only sometimes and that is very much so against the rules.

i agree with malas, while it might not be so obvious, it does look shady

I'll talk to him about it. Also note that I didn't post the camp link as Mkick requested on the first page of the thread, only the fighter record link or whatever it was that I posted. This did have a purpose because I was looking to collect a couple opinions on this one first, though it looked obvious enough to me. I understand that some people see red when others see pink.

While on the note that I've pointed out a few feeders in the past, I have no problem devoting some time to this and will continue to do it for you guys.

I agree with VRoy. I fought my camps against one another when i first opened up initial camps but I fought them both to win so I never thought anything about it because I did it so rarely. But when I finally got onto the forums and started realizing how people felt about it and kind of thought about it myself that it is unfair then I never did it again.

Point is is its not wrong until he knows its wrong cuz people that sign up to play this game don't necessarily immerse themselves into the forums and feel it necessary to abide by the veterans rules until they are aware how universal they are.

those arent veteran rules. its a game rule put in place by mkick. fighting your 2 camps against each other is against the rules, while it takes a certain % to get banned its still 100% against the rules.

the percentage part is put in place to give people a 2nd chance, not to give the assumption that its ok to feed.

When you sign up to play the game it takes you right to the fighter page. If i remember correctly, no rules are listed anywhere on the camp page or within it. I learned by going to the forums but I didn't go to the forums for a long time after I started so my point being alot of new players are not gonna be aware of any the rules if they have no interest in being in its forum.

So you can't lump feeders that try to buck the system with guys that fight multiple camps because to alot of people new its not considered wrong because they aren't aware of how passionate people are about the game. It's good to let em know its wrong so they get the chance to do it the right way.

no no no, at the top of the page between where it says log out and tutorial it says rules.. the very first one listed is feeding!

Infractions of any of these rules can result in the offending account being banned permanently.

Feeding is not allowed

If you're not familiar with the term, feeding is when you create several accounts and challenge fighters from those camps against one another. Feeding is against the rules as it pads fighters records, and increases funds for a camp unfairly. Using it to keep a title inside of your camps is also shady and is not acceptable. Challenging people that share the same computer or network can also result in flagging your camp as a feeder, however if you're not fighting them too often you have nothing to worry about. This comes down more to common sense than anything.

my point is, you and the other say its not bad if its only a little or whatever or that its a veteran rule. when that is not the case. feeding is feeding and its put on the main page. its not about players being passionate. its called against the rules.

not much else to discuss about this.

lol Thats funny I never noticed the rules on top there. I'm glad you pointed that out and i've been playing this for awhile and never noticed it.

I agree with the rule my point is obviously some people can easily miss the rule and play the game a different way. They should get the chance to be made aware before whatever type of punishment is made. Nothing wrong with that.

and i never said no one should get a second chance. what I said was that you saying doing it once in while was ok and that it was a veteran rule and that the rules are only on the forums. That is what i said was not true and false. Im all for 2nd chances, but the information is there to be seen. whos fault is it if no one looks around and reads the rules?

I never said it was ok. Don't put words into my mouth. I said its understandable for people to do it before noticing rules or hitting the forums.

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=774681

FEEDER!

Look how many times he has fought Ashton King

vroy said it wasnt a huge deal to fight once in a while and other things, you said in your own comment you agreed with him. while you didnt say exactly what you agree'ed with, you didnt say you didnt agree. so therefore i take that as you agree with everything he says.

i didnt put words in your mouth, i wrote them on a comp going off of what you said you agree with... do you still want to go back and forth?

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=775340

Fights a lot of the same camps. Won't say this one is obvious so not to offend anybody. It'd be nice if somebody else would check this out and give me the go ahead to report this in full.

I glanced at several fights of the first 2 fighters on his camp and saw absolutely nothing wrong at all.

Yeah, I might have been reaching. He just seemed to have fought and been kicked around by Emelianenkos team quite a bit.

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=45504 feeds from http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=45506
left team paso a message about it and he sent me a nastier one back nearly 2 months later, seems like an asshole as well as a feeder!

http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=781288 and http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=775151 aren't even trying to hide it.

this 1 to me just seems like 2 friends fighting eachother alot. they both win and lose and its not style or stat crushing so this ones iffy 4 me

If titles weren't involved I wouldn't care. Take a look at the amount of title shots they have bounced back and forth.

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=74581


Clear feeder, has had title defenses against guys with 0-0 taking advantage of the glitch.

Same guy I referenced before is still at it with his feeders defending his belt against 0-0.

http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=4222661

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=80263

Feeding. Looks like a new camp. I'll talk to him or something.

biggest feeder in the game atm http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=804317

I don't see any reason to think that he's a feeder. What are your reasons for thinking this?

EDIT: Nevermind. Took a closer look. Your right.

http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=777176

This camp http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=79605 is feeding with this camp http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=37892. Not a major feeder but still feeds and for added annoyance gives 0-0 title shots.

Clear cut feeder right here
http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=813043
24 fights against the same opponent

http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=818661

Dodged a fight with my clear #1 contender to fight a guy coming off a loss that was ranked well below him.

Guy he fought: http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=819077
My guy: http://mmarmy.com/fighter_record.php?id=802994

I don't see any discrepancy here. Clearly a great rivalry.

yeah...White Schindler 25! Can Schindler rebound after 23 straight losses to White?

Im pulling for White in the next fight

Noob Schindler is going to own White in their next fight! Those 23 losses were flukes!

Hes been losing consistently so that when schindler gets the title, he'll suddenly pull out a super move and snatch the title away from him!!!
I still dont get how a guy with a 23-1 record hasnt popped out by now, even if he is fighting some absolute turd!?

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=799206

Although I'm not sure about this one...

Schindler finally pulled another win out... 2-27

and now he holds a belt

You should give him more credit, he found a way to turn a fighter with a shitty chin into a 31-2 beast. He's a better coach than I.

I admire the courage and grit it mustve took after unfortunately winning the first 20 fights and then still having the endurance to win some more. Takes a true champion with alot of heart to conquer such a steep mountain!

Is there actually any point to this thread?!?

Only to operate as a shitlist that people can use, since I'm guessing that Mkick hasn't been checking the thread.

or his sherdog pm

Yes Matt, the will of a champion always existed in this modern day gladiator. From the Valleys of Kings all the way to the Pantheon of roman royalty the pure eagle spirit soars in this once in a lifetime wunderkind. May god have mercy on your soul if you ever find yourself across the cage from this digital destruction machine. Whether its Skip Lange,Cookie Monster or even Drew Brown all will fall victim in humiliating epic fashion to the man, the myth, the legend.......Andrew "Goodnight" White

Looks like this moondog guy is feeding
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=816288 (Blankets)
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=823378 (MidSouthWrestling)
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=827698 (duck or bleed)
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=822537 (blankets)
moondogs roster - http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=45494
another camp which fights alot - http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=80131
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=30170
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=80120
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=47244
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=52496
etc etc

all seem to have a lot of fights against each other, alot of the camps have zeros instead of o's and alot of the camps have '...record at start of relaunch'
I may be wrong but it looks shady as hell to me!

Yeah I mentioned M00nd0gs the other day, they had 3 guys all in top 10 of a lower org, I was champ and they wouldnt accept any challenges, then they had the cheek to say they duck nobody. 3 resets of refused challenges later proved that wrong - defo something iffy going on.

hey guys i fought this guy with my fighter hawk barnes

http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=4322872 and grapple pointed out to me his fighters camp UDL GYM CURITIBA.

someone commented (That Curitiba gym is shady as hell. Check som of his fighters records. Fights the same guys 10-12 times.)

so i checked the persons record and some of his other fighters and he fights people from certain camps all the time, that include the following (but may be more i did'nt check all his fights) just thought i would mention it and thanks goes out to grapple for pointing it out

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=74581
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=74855

Found a feeder. I noticed it when he ducked my 2-0 guy to fight a guy who was 0-6.

This first camp is called "Fight me pussy", and this is one of the feeder fighters. http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=840577

The camp being fed is "Team Bluebirds". http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=82773

Another one of this guys feeder camps is "Bang you one time". http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=82980

M00nd0gs was always very shady to me. I looked into it once and came up with no hard proof that he was feeding. Not sure what to think.

moondog feeds like shit lol and hes so dumb that he names his camps/fighters moondogs

just found these
mexican bjj champs gym
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=82945

feeding off kings gym
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=82944

found this
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=83061

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=83039

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=82945

Is being fed by

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=82944


To top it off, Belly is telling this kid "You need to get some wins so it doesn't look as bad".

Well that is good that Belly is telling him that because he should get some wins with the losing camp.He's likely a new player and doesn't understand the feeding policy and how stringent it is. I can't fault a new player for fighting camps right off the bat as they don't understand the other side of what they're doing.

Gotta give these guys a warning before considering that they are going out of their way to fuck people over.

To be honest,

I still don't understand how so many of you say that you never saw the ' rules ' link in-game. It's right in front of your face. I think the reason why I'm so opinionated might be that I had the luck of seeing it immediately, reading it, and basically comprehending it at about the same time that I registered my first camp.

Oh well. CBD is right, good guys won't feed after being informed not to do so. Only fair to have somebody inform them.

To me, though, that's final warning. Feed again and you won't see them getting title shots from any tier from me.

Yeah, I hear ya Chief. But even a new player should know that is manipulating the system, and blatantly cheating.

i agree something needs to be done? and if you look at the display ids of the 2 camps they were made at the same time (if you were new to the game you would create 1 camp to see if you like it) imo with the intention of SEEDING and i for 1 will not be accepting challenges of these 2 camps

The godfather of feeding:

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=67327
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=84978
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=84977
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=84984
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=84986
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=84982
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=67188
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=67328
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=84983
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=84985

They're all feeding each other.

Is this the biggest bust of all time?

Wandy, and System both may have had more.

Not even close

I'm going to see if I can dig up the bust I made from a couple years ago.


The dude literally had about 20-25 feeder camps.

Damn!! Talk about time consuming.

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=78363
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=78445
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=78500
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=78505

I think this dude could have been slightly more sly about this, lol.

At least he did the right thing instead of arguing about it.

http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=878748
with
http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=883297

0.o

good find. that guy has been around awhile too.

i was going to put this in here but nothing gets done about it but this camp feeds with those 2 aswell
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=75417

Dont forget RED DEVIL GYN


http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=74581

http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=4659992

.. o_o Coincidence?

http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=4665446

.. And why do these two fight each other so much? Look at their records.

because they know they can do it over and over again and nothing will be done about it!

billworld1 BWC USA http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=87349
billworld2 BWC BRAZIL http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=87350
billworld3 BWC CANADA http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=87353
billworld4 BWC JAPAN http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=87354

billworld6 BWC RUSSIA http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=87356
billworld7 BWC UK http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=87357

It's so obvious, it's like the guy doesn't know that it's illegal, so I started dropping him msgs, but I gave up after finding 6 camps.

And he has ignored me completely, and is still doing it. Top 2 ranked dudes in RR LW are 100% fed.

Its a clear feeding situation lol. Hope that MKick will see it...

bill world is a very large planet with many inhabitants named bill. this is just a misunderstanding lol

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=87004

http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=4659000
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=4652819

Cardinal sin

vacated the title
my bad.

*let the your a feeder begin lols*

you're a feeder

http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=900599 just low tier but hes duckin my alliance fighter and fighting the same camp

PH club / jimua / pitbullzz


1 example http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=902392

This camp: http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=90090
Fought this camp: http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=90109

Similar username, seems like a light feeding situation (he's also fighting other camp). I've warned him, if he continue after that, actions should be taken (if MKick still check this thread...)

Guy responded on my camp page, saying that he'll stop. Checked his guys records, seems legit.

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=94186

dudes got a huge feed on. Guess he can just continue to do so in the Mmarmy tundra though.

Is feeding to barely .500 really feeding?

http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=1032685

Apparently nothing will ever be done about it, but for the respectable community's reference:

Heart FC and Little Boy FC, controlled by forum name Chubby, feeds constantly, including for EFC titles.

Here's just a few non-title fights:
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=5375160
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=5373154
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=5369226
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=5378848

And some EFC titles:
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=5372973
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=5376628
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=5377644

His maintenance of #1 P4P is partly due to feeding as well:
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=5379482
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=5377957
http://mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=5376629

When confronted about it, he gets defensive and claims he "makes the rules now." So y'all go ahead and exist because Chubby allows it if you want to.

Everyone knows that any title Chubby has won was won when it didn't matter anymore. Game has been dead for awhile now.

Surprise surprise. A shady player in the Wdoa alliance.


I'm so shocked. I'm sure nothing will be done about it either.

http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=1054527

bk36 bkat bk28

Obviously a rivalry for the ages.

Narc.

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=6206
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=5935
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=99158
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=98813
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=99158
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=98793
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=98814
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=98778
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=98777

Camp Teemo, Camp Teemu, Camp XXMO, BeatAzz, Camp TMO, Camp TZX, Sudos Samurais, Sakurais Samurais...I think there are much more.

Saw the Sakurais samurais camp, and saw he had an invite to Wdoa. Ha. Ha. Ha.

How many feeders are in Wdoa?

I may just start back up to feed.

chief, wanna feed each other?

lol

Lol

yo whats up retard

i have even found a vid of you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cseHUKbwbHI

Estupro Esganar
Dirtiest Boxers
Andrews Elite
Team Corona
Judoku USA

Decided to sign a LW to LOTC and found a massive feeder ring. All these camps belong to CheifBD.

He is a dirty cheating feeder. Only dorks feed this amount of camps to each other.

I'm not feeding.

Just fighting and filling the orgs with that weight class.

Nobody likes you Kid. lol

I like that idea chief, if we can pick a weightclass on the forums, then everyone should flood that weightclass and itll be like the old days where it actually took time to work up the rankings!

I'm doin LW in LOTC right now Mattu.

I'm fighting probably once a day right now. Just re-started so there will be fights if you need em.

yeh ill stick some guys in once i recruit a few, was looking to make a return but seen the number of fighters and thought nah, but if there all at the same weight, at least theyll be competition

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=1064119

BH's idea of competition.

Lol troll, check the last time that camp was used, I came back to revive it but then realised no one plays anymore, So gave up quickly

Plus where's the feeding there lol

That said BH.. How I missed that avatar..... SLUURRRPPP

Amelkia

Bangong Diwa

(Examples)

Link

Link

Are things actually going to be done now?

If they know it's wrong then yes.

+1 Internet

Compared to the plague that feeding used to be, it's pretty tame now. I still think Kick shoulda banned all the feeder camps from before he made it an "official rule".

Damn....

That's not feeding kid. Which fighter is he feeding to make the other win?

He is fighting his fighters against each other which is against the rules but that is not feeding.

I may need to call Chael to explain this.

Plus when did these fights take place? When there was zero people playing? Hell if everyone quit like they all did months back and there was nobody in EFC then what do you expect?

Fighting against yourself isn't something i have a problem with unless you are outright trying to have a particular guy win and another lose on purpose ahead of time.

The game right now has a good number of players back and so the rules should be enforced. Fighting your own guys is wrong and shouldn't be allowed but lets call feeding what is and not be lazy. Fighting your own guys against each other is one thing but feeding is another.

But both are wrong and Chubby should know that by now.

EFC title shots against himself?!? I think weve all been in the position where one of our camps is champ and the other is no.1 contender, but ive never known them to give themselves a shot!

How recently did he do that?!?

Yea but wasn't that when everyone quit?

There was a span where everyone stopped playing besides maybe Chubby Smacku and Seaville. EFC has like Strikefest numbers of fighters. lol

surely there mustve been one other guy with at least 1 win?

Probably was but it was also probably missed resets galore by everyone and regular players having to wait multiple resets for an opponent to accept.

I see what your saying chief, but I still think you should never give yourself a shot, even more so in efc!

It was last year, I was bumping it for reference, and at the time there were enough fighters to not fight himself.

The numbers we have now are shit as well. I cant get fights because I log on too late. Thank you chief for letting me know where you stand. Been wanting to see how my camps fair against each other for awhile.

i used to get shit for fighting bellys camp alot, like we'd have trilogys and that was frowned upon!

I said it was against the rules. I just said there is a difference between doing that and outright feeding. Which there is a difference. All i'm getting at is cut him some slack. If the game died out to the point it did months ago WHICH IT WAS WAY WORSE THAN NOW. It's understandable if you can't get a fight for days.

The game number is still low sure but HALF THE FIGHTERS are fucking 0-0 records. Stop incubating and making trainers and orgs will look twice as big.

Advertising will come when i add shit to the game. I'm not going to spend my money on advertising and see a wave of people come and go without putting more into it first. In the mean time spread the word yourselves if it's too bare for you or fight your fighters earlier.

So your saying if I do the exact same thing for the exact same reason, im in the wrong. But you defend his antics?

I log in as early as I possibly can. I guess its.my fault for not being.more committed.

He did it a year ago so yea go back in time and fight your guys. Have a blast.

No tokens.

While your improving the game is there a way to make the unwritten rules part of the game. Is there a way to make it impossible to fight your own camps? Meaning if i tried to click the accept button for a challenge it would have a pop up that says cant accept fight due to same ip address?

I ask this because with the new wave of people coming in they first would have to learn to rules of the game...then come on the forums and learn the unwritten rules (which even we all cant aggree on). just seems like it would be the same contentious environment we had before and then everyone left....

also on the incubating thing...would it be possible to implement something like if u don't fight your guys within 10-15 resets he automatically reties from apathy. You could have a fun note attached with it on your camp home page "Fighter A retied out of boredom"

and i dont mean all fighters on your camp...just the ones who are 0-0. then again i guess you could just fight him once and then incubate him...so that might not work. it would be easy to get around. but if the goal is to get all of us fighting all of fighters then there should be an in game repercussion for incubating.

I'm looking into the IP idea Wiked. Yea not sure about the inactivity one. Not sure i agree with it. Incubating and inactivity sucks but i'm not all that motivated to punish even though i HATED people that did that shit.

i think the ip thing would help eliminate a lot of the feeding. persnally i think incubating is a swelf imposed penalty.

A - you dont get money from fighting.
B - you dont find out your fighters strengths and weakeness and if u incubate it takes longer for those to show.
C- you slow your fighters asent to the higher teirs for more money and better belts.

so i dont think anything needs to be done for incubating just throwing that out there. but the feeding/fighting your own camps has always bugged me. if it against the rules make it impossible to do in game. i have introduced this game to some friends i play internet games with...and the first thing they always wanted to do was make another camp and fight their own fighters....it was weird to tell them they couldn't do that cuz they would get yelled at by the community....

when i first started playing this game i did the same thing i created camps to help get a fight in each reset...it was only until 6 months later i came on the forums and realized that was "against the rules" I was just lucky my fighters sucked so bad that no one cared to look at my records and post a mean comment on my home page. i can only imagine if i had some luck and got some good fighters and some belts i would have been ostracized for feeding and breaking the unwritten rules. when in reality i did not know about these unrwritten rules. i just wanted to play the game and figure out the styles and get money so i could get better equipment.

Incubation is a self-fulfilling cycle that could perhaps be ended with simple cooperation.

Some people incubated because they were honestly, faggots. Then somebody else started doing it cause his recruit got stomped, then somebody else saw the trend and did it too, and so on and so forth untill nowadays where you pretty much have to incubate at least a bit or you cant get fair fights early game because others do as well.

If we all agreed to stop it and just sign in our recruits immediatly there would be tons of fair fights to be had early game imo.

I get my guys to 2.25 in jj and then the other stats aligned properly

slight incubation but incubation


not a faggot...but willing to learn

Camps:

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=102145

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=102211

Legit feeding, or do they just fight a lot?

don't forget this camp as well trite
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=102154

And another

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=102215

Ok i banned most of his camps he was feeding with. Thanks Trite.

He got a warning on Shippensburg.

1) i agree with chief that there is a difference in definition between feeding and fighting your own guys with legit camps (that compete for upper titles).

2) feeding and fighting your own camps are equally deplorable offenses. i don't buy for one second the "there weren't enough fighters" defense. straight up BS. was always against the unwritten rules regardless of number of players.

3) the IP idea would potentially curtail feeding, but not fighting your own camp. if the IP idea were implemented and you couldn't fight two camps against each other from the same IP, if i thought my guy deserved a title shot while my other guy held the strap, i could simply accept the title shot on my phone (after turning wifi off).

4) what's done is done. if it continues now, chubby or anyone else who fights their own camps can forget ever fighting one of my guys who has the strap.

Yea true on the different phones Phreak but still the same IP fighting one another being stopped could still help.

might hurt college aged players who live in dorms

and what if trite gets a new job with a current player?


I am all for doing away with feeding etc...just saying

I for the record have a problem with fighting your own camps.

While Chief reserves the right to say whatever he wants on the matter since he's the owner - I would say that we are here as coaches to compete against one another. Fighting your own guys where it could even be suggested that the coach had a control in the outcome is kind of retarded.

You guys do whatever you want. Fight away against yourself. If I see it you've certainly lost my respect as a coach for whatever that's worth.

I was just stating my opinion on how i felt about it. If it's against the rules which people have said many times that it is...then it's against the rules. Just because i have an opinion on something doesn't mean it's the way it has to be.

The whole reason i jumped in on the subject was to explain that there is a difference between fighting your guys and feeding. There is a difference. BOTH are against the rules but there is a difference and i'm not going to look at it like some lazy hater prick like some.

ANY way you slice if fighting your own guys is wrong but i can understand a new player doing it without knowing. Fighting two camps to get fights and for the overall experience not having to wait on someone else online to get a fight. Fighting your guys to test for fun or whatever. My point was i understand not that i approve of it and it needs to be ok.

I just yesterday banned a bunch of camps from a feeder that Trite found so i don't wanna hear any crying about me saying it's ok to feed.

Respectfully noted. It's different.

Still not OK IMHO, but different.

Part of the selling point in legend tokens was to fight your own guys against each other.

Trite with the nugget of wisdom. Fighting your own camps is not different than feeding to me.

Is it against the rules to test weight between my own camps? I always make sure the fight doesnt take place; I make sure the tester is a HW or will def miss weight..

Just want to clarify this with you Chief because Ive never seen a problem with it since there's no gain and a fight doesnt take place.

If this is legit, then would this still be possible with the IP thing? Otherwise, I dont like that idea, even if it eliminates feeders.

No that doesn't count. If it's not a recorded fight then by all means. I'm sure most agree.

i always use camps i run to test weight, that way your not annoying other coaches with fight challenges with guys who might not make weight and wasting their time

L E G E N D S seems to be feeding off of:

Rolling 60's
Winers united

Possible Feeder Alert -

Same User runs these camps

We Dem Niggaz
Den Wolves
Spartan Inc
Neck Crankerz
Winers United
Rolling 60s
Stuy Boys
Killer Chronic
Squad SSR
Cal Dynasty
Total Impact Org
Arsenal Nation
Operas Gym
HartBeat Boxing
BangBang Killer Gang
Scoops Nation
MMA Rookies United
Steel Rods

I'm thinking this guy: USA Mens Nat http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=102186

He's got some pretty irrefutable evidence of feeding in his records.
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=1091650
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=1091654
http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=1092104

Clearly this camp is the "feed" and not the "feeder".

someone get him to the forums

I banned that camp yesterday i believe

Foul? :P

lol

Possible Feeder Alert -

dasdasda
OmegaTeam
Athletics Co
OneJitsu
NewOrleanStandOuts
Athletics America
TheFinest
JJSportsCentre
Karates Best
Sony Sponsers
sadadasdad2323
dasdasdadasdsa
antique mma
asdfgt2
AISCHT MUCHET
ay lmao
BANDCAMP AB
OneJJ
Team Jupitar
Zooted
CarpetentersLebanon
TeamLionWarriuhz

^These are all ran by the same person. If you see any of these camps fighting one another then please confirm and i will do some house cleaning on his camps.

Thank you

The example Tommo posted in the shoutbox, it seems odd that he would post on his other camp page. I mean yeah, it looks feeder-tastic, but could it be multiple people on the same IP? Is there a way to dive deeper into it?

Maybe it's a little league football team all living together? 22 camps

We dem niggaz and winers united are still active

I thought they were part of the ring that I found...trite blew up and chief shitcanned

Yea i just banned the ones of his that he was obviously setting up to lose on purpose. If he still feeds with them then i'll ban them.

He did message me telling me he won't do it again so we'll see.

Cool...thanks

Chief is the guy who had Rollin 60's in Los Angeles?

After i answer that question...then what? What's the purpose of knowing if he's in LA or not?

I wanted to know if he really if from Rolling 60's

His display name was a Tray name (rivals of the ROlling Crips) I think a gangbanger playing MMARMY is cool shit

fuck yeah. add a skin head, grand wizard and a fucking rabbi and its ever cooler shit.

Hell yea, let's get fucking Rambo in this mothafucka

grow up trite

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=40980

Randomly came across this camp. (Awesome camp name etc) But I noticed he had a lot more losses than wins, and his current record is 0-5. He could just be an inexperienced coach, but the camp was made in 2009.

I have fought karate best and onejitsu for whatever that's worth. Seen them mentioned as possible feeders.

Ah Durka Durka is not a feeder. I've fought him many many times, and he's a legit dude.

Stuy boys
Den wolves
Cal dynasty
Squad ssr
Spartan inc
Neck crankerz
We dem niggaz
Elite mafia
Rolling 60s

Same douche...either he didn't get your message chief or he erased it...two weeks later and still doing the same shit

Banned them all besides Elite Mafia and Rolling 60's. Let me know if he feeds with those 2 in the next few days/week/ w/e

Feeder alert

Forbidden Warlords
http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=1094436

Scorpion United
http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=1092915

They have fought each others fighters over and over and over again. This has all the symptoms of a feeder camp.

chief has warned that guy before as well

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display_roster.php?id=103752

Good stuff...I posted on the camp walls about feeding and also inviting him to come to the forums

Looks like they might be new camps...well, they are new camps so I am assuming it is a new guy who doesn't know


Thanks for paying attention and reporting it

Looks like new camps for the same guy fighting each other. Might not be trying to feed per say but still fighting each other.


Camp Alpha an and Camp Beta.

http://mmarmy.org/camp_display.php?id=103922
http://mmarmy.org/camp_display.php?id=103921

Ha, the camp owners are "Campy the first" and "Campy 2".

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=98777
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=98814
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=98793
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=98778
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=98813
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=5935
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=6206

camp teemo, camp teemu, camp tmo, camp xxmo, camp tzx, sudos samurais, sakurais samurais
i remember his feeding years ago. looks like he's back at it again. every fighter in every camp has fought each camp.

Thank you. Banned his camps.

http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=1153799

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=104852

There is a camp that is named "trainingcampforotheraccount" or something like that, and has only fought the scarecrow graffiti camp so far. Looks like maybe a new player that just didn't read the feeding rules, might be able to just point him in the right direction.

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=105617


http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=105621

lmao mig

Looks like these as well:

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=105618

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=105619


Feed this guy into EFC: http://mmarmy.com/fighter_display.php?id=1191306

posted this in the SB last week. camp 105620 is also his.

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=105452

Feeding

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=105

judo

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These looks suspicious...

http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=107613
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=107612
http://mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=107611

Could be...once they start fighting

those are my camps. all the good names are taken!

was gonna say judo will snap him up for his alliance in due course

grapple scumming for SRs is my theory

all my side camps have names

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=109147
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=109146
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=109144
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=109151
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=109148
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=109145
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=109149
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=109150
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=109143
http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=109142

Just let him know it's not Ok to do and if he continues i'll get rid of him.

I was gonna just ignore the guy when he was a dick, but now I see he is a cheating dick that is feeding himself constantly. I stopped after just picking 7 random guys. I could have literally gone on for hundreds of more fights.




http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6797496
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6800616
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6801369
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6801429
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6802494

http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6805591

http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6799433
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6801389
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6805539
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6805580
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6807339
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6807863
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6809403
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6810564
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6820431

http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6801383
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6801458
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6802315
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6802473
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6805540
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6806678
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6814273
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6816889

http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6803502
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6804406
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6804583
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6810448
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6810606
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6814081
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6814273
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6814870

http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6814872
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6817811
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6817811

http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6818020
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6781345
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6734197
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6734758
http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6739353

Ok, thank you.

I'll have to think about a warning or just an outrght ban of all of his camps. That'll be a little bit of a hit activity wise it looks like. lol

lol ive fought a number of them and never thought about checking who the coach was or anything, cheating bastard lol

lol I think I've recommended a outreach to a few of those for people looking for alliance recruits. Might as well hit a warning first if it's easy to monitor and he hasn't got one yet.

It's only one fight that I could find, I only looked through that one camp and not his others. But regardless chief warned him and he still did it http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=6821317

His camps are banned.

http://www.mmarmy.com/fighter_display_record.php?id=1461460 check out his early record. http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=37348 this is the camp

I already posted on that Heath Hollands wall after I noticed it back in December. I think he stopped after that. Not sure if he did it with other fighters though.

http://www.mmarmy.com/camp_display.php?id=102105

http://www.mmarmy.com/showfight.php?fight=7372852
Lol

Lol, thats pretty blatant. I feel bad for the Forbidden Warriors.

Both camps banned.